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Re: Ask HN: Thoughts on new GitHub layout?

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Post by bau5 »

natfriedman wrote: post #284
ljm wrote: post #126

I submitted feedback over it but, aside from the over-reliance on rounded corners, and making pills and buttons hard to separate, the single worst change is that you can't see the latest commit status from the repo screen. Instead, you get the commit hash, and have to click a tiny ellipsis button to get the commit message and the status indicator. When I'm browsing on github and not using git directly, the commit sho…

Thanks for the feedback about the latest commit status. This is something we should definitely fix. Also – I don't think there is a principle of lowering information density at work here. I think it's just a design that we will keep iterating. We are pro information density at GitHub.

> We are pro information density at GitHub.

We are against locking children up in cages at GitHub.

Re: Ask HN: Thoughts on new GitHub layout?

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Post by miguelmota »

Never liked how Microsoft designed things because it feels unfinished and contrast of colors is bad. Certain content is pushed to the edges of the screen for no good reason and some of the fonts are a light in color making it hard to read. The commits link is not obvious anymore that it's clickable.

The redesign is not that bad but there's still a lot to improve on. Before it was easier to scan the page from top to bottom but now the page feels a lot more busier because there's more dropdowns and sidebars. I feel like my eyes are jumping all over the place trying to locate things now. Wish they had chosen functionality over design.

Re: Ask HN: Thoughts on new GitHub layout?

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Post by T3RMINATED »

humblebee wrote: post #163
Hedja wrote: post #117

I have a single major problem with all of their new layouts. They place content at extreme ends of the screen, completely stretched out like a rubber band with No Man's Land in the middle. In this case, the top half is stretched and the bottom half is centred. Completely inconsistent and tiring for your eyes darting around corners of the screen. Example: https://twitter.com/JahedDEV/status/1275532988772683776 I don't…

Ya, I didn't understand this design choice. For a while I've had some custom css which also extends the width of the main content on github as well because I've always found reading some github issues with logs in them challenging. This is the css I'm running now to fix this, as well as extend the width of the main content. The 1600px is such that when using i3 and having my browser be half the screen it consumes mos…

On a large monitor I have to scan left to right, almost breaking my neck in the process wtf.

Re: Ask HN: Thoughts on new GitHub layout?

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Post by sixers2329 »

The releases on the sidebar is handy, but something about the top of the page feels... disconnected. I think I’d like the “about” section at the top rather than in the sidebar. Getting rid of the double nav is a good improvement.

The non-centered readme is a little triggering, but maybe I just need to get used to it

Re: Ask HN: Thoughts on new GitHub layout?

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Post by mixologic »

Deimorz wrote: post #280
mixologic wrote: post #245

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Low information density means "less clutter" for somebody new to the interface, but it means "many more steps" to provide all the information that a dense design allows for. So much design fails to take into account human expertise, and our ability to learn complex interfaces. They get the A/B treatment which optimizes for beginners, which always leans towards the simpler, easier design. This is why we'll never get a…

This is also linked to the obsession with constant, never-ending growth. Bringing in new users is more important than making existing users happier - you just need to keep them happy enough that they won't actually leave. It results in targeting the design towards people that don't use the product (yet) instead of the ones that already do.

Seriously one of my biggest pet peeves. So often I hunt around for the login button, annoyed at being force fed some growth hackers moronic idea of a good interface. It undermines the likely hood that I will "recommend this product to a friend".

Re: Ask HN: Thoughts on new GitHub layout?

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Post by kyawzazaw »

eyerony wrote: post #328
systemvoltage wrote: post #267

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One of the arguments by Designers is that they make the UI more approachable - they don't realize that they are biased by their personal aesthetic taste, their friends like the same type of flat sleek modern UI designs, and they like going to minimal galleries, subscribe to itsnotthat and read the colossal blog. This is a cultural imposition, not something a professional would do. Yet, we have modern designers inject…

True story: my dad is confused by basically all technology and all modern user interfaces. The one site he finds usable without assistance? Craigslist.

On the contrary, my parents were never able to use texting on old mobile phones or even 2013-era smartphones. but now they easily are able to do video-calls, voice-calls on today's smartphones and apps.

They are also able to make payments using code scanning and normal transfer through the ease to use interface.

And this is in Myanmar, where we barely had internet for public use 10 years ago.

Re: Ask HN: Thoughts on new GitHub layout?

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Post by kyawzazaw »

threeseed wrote: post #317
jakebellacera wrote: post #222

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I'm curious, what exactly has broken in your workflow? The biggest issue I see is that you are unable to see build status on a commit (above the file list), but otherwise nothing really has changed too much in my opinion.

Some examples: 1. On larger monitors e.g. 4K the menus are on the far left whilst the content is in the middle which makes it far more of an effort to navigate around. 2. Row separators have disappeared so I have to be a lot more deliberate about which file I am clicking now since it's a lot easier to mis-click. 3. Buttons are a mess. You can't distinguish what is a button and what is not e.g. Clone versus the Open I…

Not discounting your experiences but I really have not found any of what you described as a problem.

Except for the very prominent clone button, I really have not felt it has brought anything negative.

Although, I probably use GitHub like 50% less than you.

Re: Ask HN: Thoughts on new GitHub layout?

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Post by kyawzazaw »

verdverm wrote: post #336
talideon wrote: post #310

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If competing with Atlassian is the point, then they're going to have to completely revise their licensing model for a start. GHE is _far_ too expensive compared to Atlassian's whole software suite to be any real competition.

It gets merged into MS product catalog, GitHub might have a time table at this point...

just like Teams got marketshare
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