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Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything else/other?"

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Re: Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything else/other?"

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No. HN is good as it is and I find it disrespectful when newcomers are demanding changes like this. There's a good reason the forum has stayed the same for almost 20 years.

Topic tags wouldn't kill HN.

I don’t want the visual clutter.

Re: Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything else/other?"

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Hacker news, like everything in tech, is susceptible to hype. Today it's AI, a few years ago it was Bitcoin. I do think it's worthwhile to occasionally have a discussion about what content we want to see, and if a particular topic is getting too much attention. It's also totally reasonable for a group of people to not want their agenda hijacked. So, IMO, let the discussion continue. Let's see what comes out of it.

I should add: Many years ago I used to read a news site that was modeled after slashdot. One day the person running it decided to switch it to be community-moderated. Every day it was the same discussion over again, from someone who didn't bother to do a Google search or look at what was posted the day prior. After a week or so of seeing the same discussion over and over again, I stopped reading the news site. Needle…

Out of curiosity, what was the site?

The only clone I'm familiar with is (defunct) christdot.org.

Re: Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything else/other?"

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To begin with, this would be a non issue if HN just introduced something like user provided tags and users can vote for/against (to circumvent abuse) Then the people wanting to filter "x" could just do it via simple grease monkey scripts or if HN natively supported it. Sure, it wouldn't be perfect, but neither does it have to be.

No. HN is good as it is and I find it disrespectful when newcomers are demanding changes like this. There's a good reason the forum has stayed the same for almost 20 years.

1. I joined in 2016. I guess it all depends on what the cutoff is for "newcomers." I suppose you could call anyone who signed on after 2007 a newcomer.

2. "demanding?" I wrote:

>Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything else/other?"I would very much like to enjoy HN the way I did years ago, as a place where I'd discover things that I never otherwise would have come across. The increasing AI/LLM domination of the site has made it much less appealing to me.

Re: Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything else/other?"

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I released the source: https://github.com/simonw/tools/blob/main/hacker-news-filter... (Apache 2 licensed) and a commit history listing the prompts I used. https://github.com/simonw/tools/commits/main/hacker-news-fil... - also displayed on the site here: https://tools.simonwillison.net/colophon#hacker-news-filtere... I don't think I need a privacy policy since the app is designed so that nothing gets logged anywhere…

You should try to get other people to make your demos is all I'm saying. I don't know why you keep inserting yourself either. Why didn't someone else post the thing you made? Were they waiting for you to do it or do you think people aren't smart enough to do it? I'm just trying to understand why every damned LLM story has to feature you. In what ways could you avoid such a filter of your posts?

let simonw be prolific, lots of people enjoy his content and that is why his comments in the post are always ranked in the top. This animosity isn't constructive.

Re: Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything else/other?"

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I have seen this question asked on subreddits, Not about AI, but for other topics that some people dislike. They always seem to take the form of "Should we divide this group into A and B, A stays here and B goes over there and that way everybody is happy" Invariably the person who proposes this wants to remain in group A and will not be a participant in group B. To me this seems like the subtext is "Those people are…

This honestly reminds me of the crypto days from 2017-2021ish. Literally 80% of the posts were about crypto and how we were going to experience some ground shattering revolution. There were so many posts about how all the topics are about crypto and how it is annoying. Ultimately, all that noise and the billions of dollars poured into that turned into a meme if we're honest. Most people just buy/flip crypto or hold B…

Apparently, it's not even close.

According to https://hn.algolia.com/:

- "show hn" "nft" – 151 results

- "show hn" "blockchain" – 479 results

- "show hn" "crypto" – 782 results

- "show hn" "llm" – 2,363 results

- "show hn" "ai" – 13,128 results

These numbers were originally posted by the very active user simonw just 9 days ago [0].

Since then, they've increased to:

- "show hn" "llm" – 2,417 (+54)

- "show hn" "ai" – 13,376 (+248)

- "show hn" "vibe coded" – 23 (past month)

That’s about 6 LLM-related and 27 AI-related posts per day, just in the "show hn" category.

When I first saw this thread earlier today, there were 12 AI-related posts on the front page. Even more oddly, threads unrelated to AI somehow still end up getting hijacked by AI-related comments.

I use AI and find it very useful, but I really don’t see the reason to bring it up all the time. Not everything needs to be framed around AI, and constantly forcing it into unrelated discussions just dilutes real conversations. It feels less like enthusiasm and more like obsession.

Honestly, I wouldn’t be surprised if there is a non-negligible amount of astroturfing going on across HN.

[0] – [Data on AI-related Show HN posts - simonw's comment](https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44484996)

Re: Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything else/other?"

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The site does not request any personal information, therefore no privacy policy is required.

It has no server side log? How do I know that if there is no policy?

You could read the code. This is Hacker News after all.

Re: Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything else/other?"

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On my new page, AI/LLM is a very small fraction of the total.

Instead, I see everything from "Why the Upper Middle Class Isn’t Special Anymore" to "Boeing fuel switches safe, regulator says after Air India crash" to "Building a Simple Router with OpenBSD" to "The Scourge of ‘Spot-Fixing’ Is Coming for American Sports" to "How Elon Musk’s X is fueling the MAGA-Trump split."

Re: Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything else/other?"

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The prompt was to exclude llm and ai by default though

the prompt was "default to "llm, ai"", which is exactly what it did. Nothing in the prompt about defaulting to other related terms

it's irony

Re: Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything else/other?"

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I released the source: https://github.com/simonw/tools/blob/main/hacker-news-filter... (Apache 2 licensed) and a commit history listing the prompts I used. https://github.com/simonw/tools/commits/main/hacker-news-fil... - also displayed on the site here: https://tools.simonwillison.net/colophon#hacker-news-filtere... I don't think I need a privacy policy since the app is designed so that nothing gets logged anywhere…

You should try to get other people to make your demos is all I'm saying. I don't know why you keep inserting yourself either. Why didn't someone else post the thing you made? Were they waiting for you to do it or do you think people aren't smart enough to do it? I'm just trying to understand why every damned LLM story has to feature you. In what ways could you avoid such a filter of your posts?

> Why didn't someone else post the thing you made?

You mean this thing? https://tools.simonwillison.net/hacker-news-filtered

I built it literally minutes before I posted it, and I built it specifically for this thread.

Other people post my stuff all the time - if you take a look at this list here, very few of them were submitted by my user account: https://news.ycombinator.com/from?site=simonwillison.net

(Currently only one of the posts on that page were by me.)

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