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Re: Ask HN: Who's not sucky to work for?

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In what ways is it fault? It'll be helpful to correct the record if your experience is different.

The RSU vesting schedule at Amazon is nonstandard but it's not an issue. You may only vest 5% of your RSUs in your first year, but everyone is given a significant monthly cash bonus to make up for it. The compensation strategy at Amazon is that you always make the same "target compensation" each year, even your first. You aren't shortchanged just because you vest less RSUs in your first year. An example with numbers:…

So why do they do it?

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Koch Industries Truly unique culture (go read Good Profit). Shockingly flexible organization, willing to do what’s best in the long run, and is investing tens of billions dollars in technology across numerous industries (Infor and Molex at one end of the spectrum and Flint Hills resources and Georgia Pacific at the other). https://jobs.kochcareers.com/search/information-systems-and-...

I've had terrible experiences with Flint Hills (screaming turnaround managers) and my friends have only horror stories of Georgia-Pacific.

Actually, I've never heard anything good about any paper plant anywhere.

Re: Ask HN: Who's not sucky to work for?

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I've been at Facebook for about a year and a half. Before this I was at startups in the marketing and financial industries. We've been under scrutiny for the whole time that I've been there, and the company is pretty unpopular from a vocal population on here, but it's been really nice to work for. We obviously have job security, and I've been very impressed with the management chain above me. At least on my team, the…

Memed? It's being accused of assisting with genocide abroad and culture destruction locally. Memeing is a bunny with a pancake on its head. Facebook is accused of helping dictatorships hunt and kill actual humans. Good paycheque though eh.

Facebook fiddles while the world burns…

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I'm really enjoying my first 4 months at Two Sigma as a senior SRE with promises of movement into the management track. Nearly everyone is extremely highly skilled. It's not like most past jobs where a handful of people are highly talented. Here most people are extremely proficient. And then there's a culture of healthy boundaries and communication styles. I thought that being a quant (using computers to selectively…

Welcome! I still enjoy it here after 7 years.

Re: Ask HN: Who's not sucky to work for?

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I've never worked for a big famous tech firm, but I will absolutely tell you how I've managed to avoid hating work for 30 years: Find a relatively small firm, still owner-run and controlled. Avoid public firms. A corporation cannot show loyalty, but a HUMAN can. A manager has no real control -- their manager can reverse them. When you work for the owner, you can trust things a bit more IF you're working for a trustwo…

I don't agree with this.

The smaller the company and the closer you are to the owners, the more your relationship with them is that of a tool. A disposable and replacable tool.

When you work for a larger company (assuming you are providing more value to the company than your employment is costing them), your job is secure. Your day to day is relatively comfortable. You are also likely to be surrounded by more peers which contributes greatly to job satisfaction. You belong.

Look at it this way. If you notice your postman one day looking at his phone for a bit instead of delivering mail, you probably arn't going to get too bent out of shape over it. While you are paying taxes to employ his services, you're not too invested in his productivity.

On the other hand, if you've hired a plumber and you're paying him $150/hour, discovering him taking a personal phone call is worrying. You're directly paying for every minute he's on the phone. You aren't happy and the next time you need a plumber, you'll be considering your options.

Now consider taking an emergency phone call as the employee:

If you are a plumber working directly for an owner/customer, taking an emergency phone call is stressful. The customer/owner is JUDGING you because it's his money paying you. That phone call is more likely to negatively affect your livelihood.

If you are a plumber working large company, your foreman is probably more interested in not losing you and having to spend time replacing you. Your wages aren't coming direcly out of HIS pocket, so he's more invested in believing your phone call is reasonable. He WANTS to believe that.

I've worked for a dozen small companies (20-100 employees) and a couple large companies (200-10000 employees). My job satisifaction has been much, much higher at the two large companies.

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I loved every minute of my time working at Netflix. Great, talented coworkers who I could constantly learn from, management chain from bottom to top of former engineers, so they understood when you would say, "I worked on this for a week but have no results because it didn't work". Plenty of resources to do what you needed to do, and lots of autonomy to do what you thought was right. Very little process and upper man…

Just be prepared to apply and never hear back from them, even with twenty years of internet company and vfx experience. Absolutely nothing, not even a “no thanks,” for all the time wasted on their job site.

Applying through company websites is usually a black hole. For whatever team you’re applying for, try to find the team lead/manager/etc and hit them up on social media. Obviously be prepared to sell yourself but getting hold of a human usually fares much better than applying through whatever portal.

Re: Ask HN: Who's not sucky to work for?

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Yourself. 13 years, 14 in December, as freelancer, I get to work directly with people who have problems, my software really helps them instead of being an internal tool that will get reinvented in 5 years at big corporations. I choose my own projects, I am constantly learning in different industries, meeting (both virtually and in person) people from all 5 continents and while the pay is great my biggest motivator is…

Did you do a stint in big tech companies prior to going freelance? Is it just you or did you form a team of devs?

Re: Ask HN: Who's not sucky to work for?

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I've never worked for a big famous tech firm, but I will absolutely tell you how I've managed to avoid hating work for 30 years: Find a relatively small firm, still owner-run and controlled. Avoid public firms. A corporation cannot show loyalty, but a HUMAN can. A manager has no real control -- their manager can reverse them. When you work for the owner, you can trust things a bit more IF you're working for a trustwo…

counter point: after working for small owner-run companies where the owner took everything personally, I will forever only work in big tech. The owner ran the show and was emotional. Every time a competitor launched something new, they would change course and race to copy them. Ended up delivering nothing and eventually laid off after 1.5 years. At a big company, everyone is spending someone else's money and the peop…

> At a big company, everyone is spending someone else's money and the people at the top realize they can't (and shouldn't!) change course every 3 mo.

tell that to the google messaging teams :-D

Re: Ask HN: Who's not sucky to work for?

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Agreed, liking it here so far. But you do have to make sure you get on an interesting team. I wouldn't want to be on a lot of different teams here.

Is it really true that once you pass the interview and orientation you get to choose the team you want to work on?

Yes, if they have headcount, you should be good to go
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