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Re: Ask HN: How to stave off decline of HN?

#331
Admit defeat and just use the slashdot system. For all its trolls and failings slashdot still has the best crowdsource comment moderation system on the interwebs.

The Slashdot System

- Comments start at +1 and can range from -1 to +5 only

- Mod points are limited and distributed randomly as needed

- Only members with good karma are eligible for mod points

- Mod points must be used within 24 hours

Re: Ask HN: How to stave off decline of HN?

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post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's kind of a "my amp goes up to 11" kind of thing, isn't it? You're just changing the label for "no votes either way."

No, it assigns a cost of 2 points to commenting.

It could discourage dialogue. Some very good, troll-free, threads are also very deep.

Re: Ask HN: How to stave off decline of HN?

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post #315

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was thinking the same thing which is why I didn't mention the length idea. However... what if users over say 1 year and with a high comment average were exempted? To add to that, lionhearted posted a comment about inevitable site decline because of open membership and equally weighted voting. What if only accounts over 1 year could vote (or diminish their vote weight)? Wouldn't instituting a min. length requirement…

But there is something unsavoury about that sort of elitist/privilige system I think. Perhaps, however, the word-count restriction could apply only to the 'top-nodes' of the comment threads, ie. if you're replying to the submission itself. That way, things are started off on the right foot, and snidey one-liners never get upvoted to the top of the whole thread.

I know what you mean, but is it really elitist if it's only a time requirement? It's like admission to a club, anyone can get in but everyone past the current site size pays their dues (in this case by sticking around). If the goal of the site is to not die from popularity, this may be understandably necessary.

On your other point, I'm thinking that short unwanted quips can rear their ugly head anywhere along threads.

Re: Ask HN: How to stave off decline of HN?

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It's not all bad, but I've noted a disturbing trend of dogpile upvoting and downvoting.

What about taking away downvoting? It would change the dynamic, at least. I suppose it doesn't solve the problem of stupid posts and comments being upvoted.

Re: Ask HN: How to stave off decline of HN?

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post #65
post #8

The comment flag button could be changed to really mean something; for instance: sufficiently flagged comments can stop collecting upvotes.

That wouldn't do anything currently. Only really atrocious comments get flagged, and they always have huge negative scores. Though of course if flagging had more effect, maybe more people would do it. Another thing I've considered is having specific types of flags on comments, and having them have different effects. E.g. there could be a flag for incivility, and if you got enough of those (maybe in proportion to your…

When I see something dumb and/or mean that has been highly upvoted, I don't consider flagging it, because I don't think it will have any effect.

However, I don't see an algorithmic way to use flagging in such a situation. The new control mechanism would be subject to the same problems that led to the comment being upvoted in the first place.

I'd like to see the mods experiment with a more authoritarian approach. When a comment sucks, I want the mods to impose their will upon the populace, informing everyone that the comment sucks, regardless of its upvotes. Flags could play a role.

Re: Ask HN: How to stave off decline of HN?

#340
post #95

I'd suggest that there are more tiers to functionality than are currently in place. At the moment, after 500 points you're given the ability to downvote comments. Perhaps there should be additional barriers in place, such as this: 0 - Ability to comment on threads 50 - Ability to upvote comments 500 - Ability to downvote comments 1000 - Ability to submit articles/stories 2000 - Ability to downvote articles/stories et…

This creates a powerful incentive to game the system. In the long run you would worsen the situation.
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