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Adobe achieves that with desktop apps, if you can call it an achievement.
Achievement is a big word here. They had to shove it down people's throats with a bloated, buggy, and expensive app suite.
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And therefore, beware any OS attempts to break cross platform browser compatibility. Also I think you can deploy to all those things with Qt.
And pay QT like 5,000 $ a year to keep it closed source. No thank you. Would rather write it 6 times. Or just use electron.
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How do you have more "control over your software" with a web app? With a native app, I can do virtually anything. With a web app, I can really only do what (Google ∩ Apple ∩ Microsoft)'s web browser teams decided to prioritize, and allow, and optimize. As for 'pirating', is that a serious concern these days? I've only ever heard about it being an issue at big companies selling software to other big companies, where i…
I think they mean rapid, continuous deployment. If it’s a web app you can push out changes every day to near universal adoption. With a native app you have to cajole users to update
Native desktop apps are great. The reason that people don't write them is because users aren't on "the desktop". "The desktop" is split between OS X and Windows, and your Windows-app-compiled-for-Mac is going to annoy Mac users and your Mac-app-compiled-for-Windows is going to annoy Windows users. Then you realize that most users of computing devices actually just use their phone for everything, and your desktop app…
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Bitwig has been ported to Android ? Or IOS ?
I don't think it makes sense to use it on even small laptops screen to be honest so I don't really see the point. You'd have to redo the UI and whole paradigm entirely anyways for it to be meaningful on small devices. But there is certainly not any obstacle to porting - from my own experience with ossia & Qt, it is fairly easy to make iOS and Android builds, the difficulty is in finding a proper iOS and Android UX. I…
Off-topic, but regarding Bitwig: of course it makes perfect sense to use it on smaller devices. Not phones, but tablets. It's even officially supported with a specific display profile in your user interface settings (obvious target amongst others: windows surface). This is particularly useful for musicians on stage.
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> However as a developer and as a software business owner/investor, it's (much) better to write web apps. Why do you say that?
As a business, it's not to your advantage to have to ask permission from app store owners. The web does not require permission from a third-party that may decide to compete with you.
I basically had no users for one of my desktop apps for seven years, till I ported it to mobile and put it in the normal app store
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Concerning the desktop, I honestly don't see Windows users caring much about non-native UIs. Windows apps to this day are a hodgepodge of custom UIs. From driver utilities to everyday programs, there's little an average Windows user would identify as a "Windows UI". And even if, deviations are commonplace and accepted. Linux of course doesn't have any standard toolkit, just two dominant ones. There's no real expectat…
During my days of Windows-exclusive computing, I wondered what people meant by native UIs, and why do they care about them. My wondering stopped when I discovered Mac OS and, to a lesser extent, Ubuntu (especially in the Unity days). Windows, with its lack of visual consistency, looked like a hot mess compared to the aforementioned platforms. And now that I think about it, would this made it easier, even by an infini…
Many comments here explain the advantages of full desktop applications. (And there are many.)
The thing to always keep in mind is, does your application justify an installer? There's so many tiny utilities that run in a browser that I can find with Google. These are utilities that I probably use once a year and don't care to install.
But if I use the application heavily, I want a desktop application even if it's just an application specific browser.
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Do you count Qt apps as native, but not count web apps as native? Why?
Qt may not 'look' native, but it has native performance, whereas Electron really doesn't.
I mean, is anyone clamouring for VS Code, for example, to be rewritten in native toolkits?
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not everybody uses a computer for the same exact thing you use a computer for
Of course, if they did there would be no point in making my comment, it would be redundant.