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Re: Ask HN: Cursor or Windsurf?

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Claude code is the best so far, I am using the 200$ plan. in terms of feature matrix all tools are almost same with some hits and misses but speed is something which claude code wins.

Do you think you use more than just 200$ worth of API credits in a month? I've used both Claude Code and Cursor, and I find myself liking the Terminal CLI, but the price is much more than 20$ per month for me.

Re: Ask HN: Cursor or Windsurf?

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I use Cursor as my base editor + Cline as my main agentic tool. I have not tried Windsurf so alas I can't comment here but the Cursor + Cline combo works brilliantly for me: * Cursor's Cmk-K edit-inline feature (with Claude 3.7 as my base model there) works brilliantly for "I just need this one line/method fixed/improved" * Cursor's tab-complete (neé SuperMaven) is great and better than any other I've used. * Cline w…

I also like Cline since it being open source means that while I’m using it I can see the prompts and tools and thus learn how to build better agents.

Re: Ask HN: Cursor or Windsurf?

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post #263

You need none of these fancy tools if you iterate over specs instead of iterating over code. I explain it all in here: https://www.cleverthinkingsoftware.com/spec-first-developmen...

That is slow and expensive.

It sounds slow and expensive, but it ended up saving me a lot of tokens and time. Especially when you want to target multiple platforms at once. For me it was liberating, absolutely night and day.

Re: Ask HN: Cursor or Windsurf?

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post #263

You need none of these fancy tools if you iterate over specs instead of iterating over code. I explain it all in here: https://www.cleverthinkingsoftware.com/spec-first-developmen...

That is slow and expensive.

Also, keep in mind that you can continue iterating over code while you keep the specs up to date. You can then give the final specs to another LLM to resume work or produce another version for a different platform or using a different framework. I do need to update the article to clarify this.

Re: Ask HN: Cursor or Windsurf?

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post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This never accesses any extradata and works only when explicitly asked? I find terminal as most important part from privacy perspective and I haven’t tried any LLM integration yet…

It is intentionally non-agentic and only runs when invoked. For extradata it sends uname and the procname when it captures such as "nvim" or "ipython" and that's it.

I also realized this morning that shell-hook is good enough to typo correct. I have that turned on at the shell level (setopt correct) but sometimes it doesn't work like here

git cloen blahalalhah

I did a ctrl+x x and it fixed it. I'm using openrouter/google/gemma-3-27b-it:free via chutes. Not a frontier model in the slightest.

Re: Ask HN: Cursor or Windsurf?

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post #286

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same here. It's extremely distracting to see the random garbage that the autocomplete keeps trying to do. I said this in another comment but I'll repeat the question: where are these 2x, 10x or even 1.5x increases in output? I don't see more products, more features, less bugs or anything related to that since this "AI revolution". I keep seeing this being repeated ad nauseam without any real backing of hard evidence.…

I am but a small humble minority voice here but perhaps I represent a larger non-HN group: I am not a professional SWE; I am not fluent in C or Rust or bash (or even Typescript) and I don't use Emacs as my editor or tmux in the terminal; I am just a nerdy product guy who knows enough to code dangerously. I run my own small business and the software that I've written powers the entire business (and our website). I hav…

I think that tracks with what I see: LLMs enable non-experts to do something really fast.

If I want to, let's say, create some code in a language I never worked on an LLM will definitely make me more "productive" by spewing out code for me way faster than I could write it. Same if I try to quickly learn about a topic I'm not familiar with. Especially if you don't care about the quality, maintainability, etc. too much.

But if I'm already a software developer with 15 years of experience dealing with technology I use every day, it's not going to increase my productivity in any meaningful way.

This is the dissonance I see with AI talk here. If you're not a software developer the things LLMs enable you to do are game-changers. But if you are a good software developer, in its best days it's a smarter autocomplete, a rubber-duck substitute (when you can't talk to a smart person) or a mildly faster google search that can be very inaccurate.

If you go from 0 to 1 that's literally infinitely better but if you go from 100 to 105, it's barely noticeable. Maybe everyone with these absurd productivity gains are all coming from zero or very little knowledge but for someone that's been past that point I can't believe these claims.

Re: Ask HN: Cursor or Windsurf?

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For daily work - neither. They basically promote the style of work where you end up with mediocre code that you don't fully understand, and with time the situation gets worse. I get much better result by asking specific question to a model that has huge context (Gemini) and analyzing the generated code carefully. That's the opposite of the style of work you get with Cursor or Windsurf. Is it less efficient? If you ar…

But how do you dump your entire code base into Gemini? Literally all I want is a good model with my entire code base in its context window.

Repomix can be run from the command line

https://github.com/yamadashy/repomix

Re: Ask HN: Cursor or Windsurf?

#329

Void. I'd rather run my own models locally https://voideditor.com/

Which model are you running locally? Is it faster than waiting for Claudes generation? What gear do you use?

That's the fun part, you can use all of them! And you don't need to use browser plugins or console scripts to auto-retry failures (there aren't any) or queue up a ton of tasks overnight.

Have a 3950X w/ 32GB ram, Radeon VII & 6900XT sitting in the closet hosting smaller models then a 5800X3D/128GB/7900XTX as my main machine.

Most any quantized model that fits in half of the vram of a single gpu (and ideally supports flash attention, optionally speculative decoding) will give you far faster autocompletes. This is especially the case with the Radeon VII thanks to the memory bandwidth.

Re: Ask HN: Cursor or Windsurf?

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I'm with Cursor for the simple reason it is in practice unlimited. Honestly the slow requests after 500 per month are fast enough. Will I stay with Cursor? No, ill switch the second something better comes along.

I wish it was unlimited for me. I got 500 fast requests, about 500 slow requests, then at some point it started some kind of exponential backoff, and became unbearably slow. 60+ second hangs with every prompt, at least, sometimes 5 minutes. I used that period to try out windsurf, vscode copilot, etc and found they weren't as good. Finally the month refreshed and I'm back to fast requests. I'm hoping they get the capacity to actually become usably unlimited.
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