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Re: Ask HN: Who's not sucky to work for?

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You worked for all of these places?

I doubt it, considering their point about Amazon (the RSU backloading, not the hire-to-fire thing) is a misconception that only someone who has never worked at Amazon would complain about. (probably some of the others too, but I only personally know about Amazon)

agree Amazon might be worst of the top bunch, although I have only 2nd hand info about them

Re: Ask HN: Who's not sucky to work for?

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Why are they two year stints when usually you're getting RSUs as part of your package that often have a 4 year vest?

four year vest doesn't mean you get all the RSUs at the end of four years. or if it does, that's not how it actually works at google, facebook, microsoft, etc. typically you get an offer with a certain amount of RSUs, and then you get 25% of that each year. amazon is an exception; you get most of the RSUs in the third and fourth year. but you also get a large signing bonus paid over the first two years that mostly ma…

Facebook does stock refreshers every year, so there is _some_ benefit on sticking around, as you’ll have more stock vesting every year (until the 4y cliff at least)

Re: Ask HN: Who's not sucky to work for?

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In what ways is it fault? It'll be helpful to correct the record if your experience is different.

The RSU vesting schedule at Amazon is nonstandard but it's not an issue. You may only vest 5% of your RSUs in your first year, but everyone is given a significant monthly cash bonus to make up for it. The compensation strategy at Amazon is that you always make the same "target compensation" each year, even your first. You aren't shortchanged just because you vest less RSUs in your first year. An example with numbers:…

Thanks for explaining extra info. Is this the norm in Amazon to equalize total compensation with cash bonuses?

Re: Ask HN: Who's not sucky to work for?

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I loved every minute of my time working at Netflix. Great, talented coworkers who I could constantly learn from, management chain from bottom to top of former engineers, so they understood when you would say, "I worked on this for a week but have no results because it didn't work". Plenty of resources to do what you needed to do, and lots of autonomy to do what you thought was right. Very little process and upper man…

Just be prepared to apply and never hear back from them, even with twenty years of internet company and vfx experience. Absolutely nothing, not even a “no thanks,” for all the time wasted on their job site.

Re: Ask HN: Who's not sucky to work for?

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post #320

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Yeah I guess I'm just surprised that, once you're at the FAANG level, the packages are going to vary that much that one would jump every two years. Also, having just interviewed at the FAANG level, they are very weary about job hoppers to the point where if you haven't worked at a place for longer than 3+ years, they want a detailed explanation why.

This has not been my experience at all. I've job hopped every 2 years to promote in transition and take on significantly more compensation. I'm about 18 months into my current role and I'm looking for the exit. Why? Because my future compensation at these companies is based on "impact" instead of what the market is willing to pay. So even if I have the highest levels of impact, I'm losing compensation staying at my c…

Yeah I mean historically I've done the same. Most of my jobs have been at most 2 year stints. This is my first experience under this kind of scrutiny. It does make sense, since most of the people (at least on this team) are all 4+ years tenured but it was a surprise.

Re: Ask HN: Who's not sucky to work for?

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I know it doesn't mean you get all the RSUs at the 4 year mark but if you leave after 2 years, you only get 50% of your RSUs. Why leave potentially hundreds of thousands on the table to jump after two years? I've never heard of this two-year stinting.

You shouldn't view the RSUs as different from any other compensation package, even just an all-cash package. If Google says they'll give you $200k per year in cash + $400k split over 4 years as RSUs, that's the same as just getting $300k per year in cash. Why would you leave $300k per year in cash on the table? Because another company is offering you $350k per year (or more likely in the case of FAANG, another compan…

You’re not factoring in stock appreciation there. It’s somewhat common these days to see people sitting on huge unvested grants, so in your example, your yearly comp won’t be the $300k/y you had at year one. Then it’s pretty hard to get a match on your “inflated” TC anywhere else. You don’t get that in an all-cash package, even if you buy stock from the company with your cash comp

Re: Ask HN: Who's not sucky to work for?

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post #98

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Startups obviously. Less obviously look for "SBIR" shops if you're ok with a little bit of weird gov contracting overhead.

SBIR shops often pay abysmally (with bad benefits) even if the work is interesting.

Depends on the shop. SBIR farms that have never commercialized a single product are terrible. Ones that have a revenue stream are fine.

Re: Ask HN: Who's not sucky to work for?

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Apiture. Fintech startup. Tech stack's recent. People are genuinely good and capable humans. Based out of North Carolina with an office in Austin, but 100% remote. Truly awesome benefits. I'm on the platform engineering team. And yes, Apiture's hiring. Let me know if you want to apply - pretty sweet referral bonuses, haha.

The engineering job descriptions don't really indicate that it's 100% remote. They seem to suggest they're looking for NC-local candidates.

Re: Ask HN: Who's not sucky to work for?

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I've never worked for a big famous tech firm, but I will absolutely tell you how I've managed to avoid hating work for 30 years: Find a relatively small firm, still owner-run and controlled. Avoid public firms. A corporation cannot show loyalty, but a HUMAN can. A manager has no real control -- their manager can reverse them. When you work for the owner, you can trust things a bit more IF you're working for a trustwo…

counter point: after working for small owner-run companies where the owner took everything personally, I will forever only work in big tech. The owner ran the show and was emotional. Every time a competitor launched something new, they would change course and race to copy them. Ended up delivering nothing and eventually laid off after 1.5 years. At a big company, everyone is spending someone else's money and the peop…

Third point: I've worked with nice owner for about 3 years and last year he merged companies with someone who can barely write and berates his developers on zoom calls.

Re: Ask HN: Who's not sucky to work for?

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post #188

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What else does it tell you?

"folks are diverse...in terms of background" Tells me they don't have any other diversity (hopefully not due to a deliberate policy)

Of the 35 people I can see on linkedIn:

17 appear to be white men

9 appear to be women

Overall that seems somewhat better than usual for small tech companies. I'd say taking 'dsr's assertion that his colleagues come from diverse backgrounds at face value may be a reasonable charity to give him.

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