Ask HN: What's your favorite way of getting a web app up quickly in 2018?

Post by [deleted] » Sun, Jun 03, 2018, 11:27 AM UTC

lol768 wrote: post #300

kristopolous wrote: post #168

Vanilla php + html5up + sqlite3. Everyone else here is trying to be stylish and fancy. Your customers don't care what language it's in or whether the code is beautiful. No cutting edge incomplete frameworks, convoluted tooling, piles of inaccurate documentation to read, inexplicable cryptic error messages with a bunch of incorrect solutions on stack overflow, or other incompetently over engineered bullshit. Just go a…

>No cutting edge incomplete frameworks So what, you rewrite a templating engine every time you want to make an application that outputs user data? Or are you reliant on making damn sure you always call htmlentities every time you echo something to prevent XSS? Are you sure you've not slipped up anywhere? What about CSRF? Do you write your own filtering mechanism every time you make a web app to check for the existenc…

Post by WJW » Sun, Jun 03, 2018, 11:35 AM UTC

fyfy18 wrote: post #107

nooyurrsdey wrote: post #63

For some reason people seem to constant doubt Ruby-ists and Rails Devs. I completely get that other languages have huge benefits over Ruby. Golang being compiled or Java running anywhere, etc... And ruby is slow, totally understood. But if youre talking about getting a functioning webapp up and running quickly ... no way anyone is beating a Rails dev in setting one up. The piping and scaffolding are all built in and…

I’d say the slowness of Ruby is really over exaggerated. For most web applications it’s good enough, and the speed of development (how fast you can ship) almost always outweighs any costs from it being slow. You can always replace the endpoints that are slow with something written in a more performant language like Golang or Erlang later. I’ve worked on all sorts of applications from corporate CRUD to mobile billing…

Post by oreganoz » Sun, Jun 03, 2018, 11:41 AM UTC

hellofunk wrote: post #317

oreganoz wrote: post #314

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Yeah, I'll probably do just that. Thankfully, I can research it more in my spare time. I think I'll start with a hobby-project and see how well it goes.

The Clojurians Slack channel can be very helpful if you hit any snags.

Post by cpursley » Sun, Jun 03, 2018, 11:47 AM UTC

nooyurrsdey wrote: post #63

For some reason people seem to constant doubt Ruby-ists and Rails Devs. I completely get that other languages have huge benefits over Ruby. Golang being compiled or Java running anywhere, etc... And ruby is slow, totally understood. But if youre talking about getting a functioning webapp up and running quickly ... no way anyone is beating a Rails dev in setting one up. The piping and scaffolding are all built in and…

Post by sampl » Sun, Jun 03, 2018, 11:50 AM UTC

onion2k wrote: post #273

KaoruAoiShiho wrote: post #52

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Too expensive to be worth it. I'm totally fine with outsourcing stuff that is difficult and third parties can do better, but in this case the amount of stuff you're playing egregious "cloud" pricing for is too much. Just spend a handful of days learning one of the open source stacks and you'll be set for life. It's totally worth it assuming you'll be making more than 1 app ever.

Firebase's free tier is more than enough to play with an idea, and the next tier up is (100k concurrent users) $25/month ... if that's too expensive then there's something very wrong with your pricing model. Obviously this assumes you're not storing much data per user - you wouldn't build a imgur clone with it - but it's not that expensive for any typical SaaS app.