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Re: Ask HN: What would be your stack if you are building an MVP today?

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Post by LeonenTheDK »

Well that depends a bit on what the MVP needs to be.

Anything web related I'm probably going the Elixir/Phoenix route. I'm no web dev, but this combination makes me actually kind of like doing web-things with how batteries included it is, and the tools it provides to really jump start a project. Then I'd host it "old schoolish" in a VPS or similar since that's what I know best. Might consider being fancy and investigating if Fly is a good fit. If a DB is required I'd use SQLite unless some constraint pushes me into Postgres.

If we're talking command line tool, the correct answer for me would be C# since that's what I know best. The answer I'd want to give though is Go since I want to get deeper into it, but that's not a good business decision.

Desktop application, best I've got in my kit is WinForms with C# and prayers that it never need run on anything but Windows. Maybe Linux with some Wine trickery, but that's not something I've done before either.

Re: Ask HN: What would be your stack if you are building an MVP today?

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Post by verisimilidude »

It really depends upon the product, right?

Let's assume we're talking about a web-based business app.

If the MVP already requires some complex business logic, then I'd probably choose an old-school stack. I personally prefer Rails. But I'd probably pick .NET. Above all, my metro area is full of .NET people. It'd be much easier to find/hire collaborators in .NET. I'm comfortable and productive enough with .NET on the technical level.

However! If I could get away with just putting up a couple Lambda functions, then that's absolutely the path I'd choose. It's an MVP. Let's get this boat rowing ASAP!

In short, product and market influence the best technical approach.

Re: Ask HN: What would be your stack if you are building an MVP today?

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Post by jrvarela56 »

0xblinq wrote: post #257
bottlepalm wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same, Next.js, Vercel, Prisma, Supabase. I push to my GitHub repo and the site is live and deployed in less than a minute. With the stack you can use the same language, DTOs, libraries, etc.. both server and client side. Server side rendering ensures a graceful handoff between server rendered state and the resulting app state on the client. I’m also using MUI which includes all the components you need for a front end…

This stack is pretty incomplete for most MVPs, as unless you're building something trivial like a landing page, you'll probably at some point also need libraries or a custom implementation for: - Validations - Translations - Error and request logging and auditing - Security (CQRS, CORS, CSRF) - Permissions and a way to integrate it with your authentication (does supabase handle this? don't know) - Email sending - Bac…

I mean, yeah you need more libraries, but I wouldn't list Formik/mobx/react-i18n/Sendgrid when talking at this level of abstraction.

Re: Ask HN: What would be your stack if you are building an MVP today?

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Post by jrvarela56 »

cmbothwell wrote: post #300
bottlepalm wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Same, Next.js, Vercel, Prisma, Supabase. I push to my GitHub repo and the site is live and deployed in less than a minute. With the stack you can use the same language, DTOs, libraries, etc.. both server and client side. Server side rendering ensures a graceful handoff between server rendered state and the resulting app state on the client. I’m also using MUI which includes all the components you need for a front end…

This is a really nice stack and what I’m using together with a colleague right now. Do you use the serverless functions available with Vercel/Supabase? If so, I’m curious how you choose when to go with each provider.

I use vercel functions for this side-project bc they worked out of the box. Just least friction tbh not sure if optimal.

Re: Ask HN: What would be your stack if you are building an MVP today?

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Post by kiwicopple »

eddieroger wrote: post #207
leros wrote: post #204

I like using ExpressJS with Typescript and a Postgres database. There are lots of great hosting options, but I'm using Heroku right now. I do really like the Firebase/Superbase options, but they impose restrictions and I don't like having restrictions like that unless I know for a fact that I'm building something very simple.

The Supabase folks are very active on here - if you shared your restrictions, maybe they'll open the up.

(supabase ceo)

We definitely like to receive feedback for improvement. let us know what you're frustrated by @leros.

Sometimes there is context for the restrictions which we haven't shared in the docs, so it would be great to hear it so that we can either fix or clarify.

Re: Ask HN: What would be your stack if you are building an MVP today?

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Post by christiangenco »

clint wrote: post #309
ultrasounder wrote: post #172

Definitely old schools. I am building a MVP right now(kinda building my parachute while jumping off the plane)and I went with Django. And here is why. 1. Very vibrant community of devs and time-tested open-source libraries.If you want a multi-tenancy there is a library for that. IF you want stripe integration there is one for that. If you want "fully built out" services, then we have a plethora of free and paid templ…

For context I'm someone who spent nearly 20 years doing almost exclusively python dev, attended the first DjangoCon in 2008, ran the Django community blog during its formation heyday back in the mid 2000's and built tons of Django modules, apps, sites etc, have commits on the Project from way-back, tech edited Django books, etc... Did rails for a short while in 2010-2012 and absolutely hated it then spent 2012-2020 d…

I had a similar journey but with Rails and ended up in a similar place.

React+Nextjs on Firebase makes the deployment and scaling steps so much easier than on Rails. I'm very conscious of the platform risk of depending so much on Firebase but gosh darn it they've spoiled me.

Re: Ask HN: What would be your stack if you are building an MVP today?

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Post by foxandmouse »

jrvarela56 wrote: post #85

Personally big on Rails (use it at work every day). But, my last MVP I did with TS/Next/Mantine/Supabase/Vercel. Reasons: - I've been using Rails as an API only, so having to grok views felt like a waste. My React skills made me feel that learning how to make complex views in my backend was a waste of time. - One type of bug I hate is ensuring my API calls have the right schema. With Supabase and TS in the frontend,…

I'm glad I came across your comment, I'm planning a 2-week project for learning purposes and I thought rails backend with react/ svelte would be the fastest way to prototype.

My ruby/ rails experience is very limited compared to my JS experience; I really just started experimenting with rails. I'm blown away by the magic, JS frameworks feel like toys in comparison. I also like that Rails is omakase.

Based on your experience, would you suggest trying rails or going the full JS stack route?

Re: Ask HN: What would be your stack if you are building an MVP today?

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Post by bob1029 »

kbrannigan wrote: post #291
bob1029 wrote: post #277

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's exactly what I do - I build a monolith using the self-contained deployment feature and zip it up to the server to run. The management of certificates, configuration, etc. is built directly into any product I work on. Outsourcing this stuff to IIS, et. al. is exactly how you wind up hating all of this tech in the first place. Prerequisites are zero if you do this right. I can take a blank EC2 server, copy the b…

How do you setup your webserver. This is the most challenging part for me. Here's my process. Build locally, publish, upload to server, dotnet run... Now what?

Modern .NET contains the web server. It's not an external thing anymore. You include a .NET library to host your stuff. Check out the minimal api reference:

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/aspnet/core/fundamentals/s...

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/aspnet/core/fundamentals/m...

Literally everything runs inside your process now, including the database if you go for SQLite.

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