I have an opposite problem, I am trying desperately to hire developers but we don't do full remote. We require some in-office time and that just turns people off. Upper management won't listen to me, they want people in the office at least three days a week so basically I'll never be able to hire anyone. We offer big salaries, benefits, you name it. Commuting sucks and people know it.
Ask HN: How's the job hunt going? (For those laid off)
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#312> but likely this next week I'll start studying and getting ready. Studying?? For a job interview? Do you seriously need to do whiteboard algorithm reverse a linked list kinda coding as a senior in the US? Or what is it that you need to study before an interview?
Oddly enough going through about 6 interviews as a senior... things get more technical instead of interviews as a junior where things were more methodical. Junior interviews were more, 'How would you go about solving problem x?'. Senior interviews have been more, 'What exact function parameters of this obscure library would you use to implement x design pattern in this made-up system for this interview?' Which is absurd unless you're a very narrowly focused SME on one specific tool/language.
Re: Ask HN: How's the job hunt going? (For those laid off)
#313Earlier quoted context omitted.
September: Patreon 150, Twilio 850, Ericsson 400, DocuSign 650 October: Peloton 500, Intel "thousands", Oracle 200, Microsoft 1k, Zillow 300 November: Opendoor 550, Twitter 3700+ (probably 5000+ after the 'sign the hardcore decree or be terminated'), Zendesk 350, Salesforce '100s', Meta 11000, Amazon 10000, Cisco 4000, HP 4000-6000, Stripe 1000+, Lyft 683 Hasn't happened yet but reported to do so soon: Google 10000[1…
Thanks. Were most of those people in technical roles? I see you mostly mentioned big tech corporations. What is the situation for it roles at non tech corporations and at middle and small tech companies? Although those numbers you mentioned might sound bad, it is possible that those are the final numbers for lay offs for those companies and once they met the numbers they target and stabilize their financial situation…
Just tech companies. I don't think there are any stories on specifically how many technical people are being laid off, just overall numbers.
A couple of these stories I've seen suggested for some of these companies it's not all, or maybe even the majority, technical people (like it says 'layoffs were focused on X, Y, and Z departments', where it might have marketing or HR in there), but there's none I've found that has made it clear exactly how many people in technical roles.
Re: Ask HN: How's the job hunt going? (For those laid off)
#314I have an opposite problem, I am trying desperately to hire developers but we don't do full remote. We require some in-office time and that just turns people off. Upper management won't listen to me, they want people in the office at least three days a week so basically I'll never be able to hire anyone. We offer big salaries, benefits, you name it. Commuting sucks and people know it.
If you were able to get one or two candidates by the end of this week to interview that were willing to do hybrid, would that work for you?
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#315I'm not laid off but actively looking to change after spending a couple of years at my current employer. Despite being a staff engineer, managing 12 engineers, and having a solid revenue stream tied to my current team - I've mostly gotten rejections without interviews, 1-2 low ball offers, or radio silence. I cannot imagine how hard this must be for those laid-off, hopefully this storm passes soon. EDIT: you cannot m…
Do you have any relationships with recruiters?
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#316Earlier quoted context omitted.
Are you choosing the right environments to work in? What do you find is the reason for instability in employment?
Variety of reasons, burnout, management style changing or expectations changing in a way that I can't keep up, I guess those are the usual ones and they're closely related. Most companies also just arbitrarily pick 2 week agile sprints with daily stand-ups, often increasing the amount of meetings as time goes on, and this is usually where things start going downward for me. There also tends to be a decrease in autono…
Damn, I’ve been there — at least in the situation where the manager concludes that micromanaging will somehow make the managee more effective, rather than in the very best case, hamstring it by bottlenecking on them and in the average case, deeply humiliate by trying to make the managee do things exactly the way they would (but be worse at it, because the managee is not them and could have their own different, personalized, effective work style).
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Yeah there is a lot of space between "has savings for 8-12 months" I think there is a mentality difference here. I have savings that would easily last me 10 years of not working. But... that's kind of my plan. I will be retiring some day. I don't want to use up even a dime of that money by not working in my prime earning years.
It is largely mentality. Both for the initial plan and execution of saving up (and trying to do it fast, e.g. in 5-10 years) and then pulling the trigger and quitting. I pulled the trigger in late 2020 based on somewhat optimistic forecasting (more than the 4%/5% rule of thumb) that I might have enough for it to be indefinite at steady expense levels. TBH rocky markets this year have had me feeling like it'd be nice…
> gotten a low interest mortgage before quitting
Meaning it would have been easier to with a demonstrable income stream? Or just incidentally, due to macro stuff and time raising interest rates over that same period
Re: Ask HN: How's the job hunt going? (For those laid off)
#318I was laid off as part of a layoff large enough to trigger the WARN act, so I was put on garden leave for 60 days.. I was fortunate to find a new job and start it exactly as the garden leave expired. It was my first job search in the post-COVID era, aka the era of remote work, and wow was it different. Traditionally, I'd see a handful of jobs that looked interesting each week, and would be one of a handful of applica…
May I ask what job boards you are frequenting? Happy to hear you got back on your feat so quickly
It was pretty much 99% LinkedIn, but with the huge caveat that the job I accepted was one I found on Indeed. That said, I gave up on Indeed pretty quickly because it mostly showed irrelevant jobs (not software engineering, far too junior, etc).
Sifting through the noise was tough. I resorted to a daily alert for each job title, since that kept the number to process each day down to a manageable level, and I made strong use of the "hide this job" function of LinkedIn to keep ones that didn't feel like a good fit from popping up again.
Re: Ask HN: How's the job hunt going? (For those laid off)
#319I was laid off as part of a layoff large enough to trigger the WARN act, so I was put on garden leave for 60 days.. I was fortunate to find a new job and start it exactly as the garden leave expired. It was my first job search in the post-COVID era, aka the era of remote work, and wow was it different. Traditionally, I'd see a handful of jobs that looked interesting each week, and would be one of a handful of applica…
5 weeks! As a hiring manager, I cannot fathom expecting a candidate to wait around that long and still be available.
I know a huge part of it is the numbers gain. Since those were all remote roles, they probably had > 200 applicants each. I did develop an appreciation for the companies that at least replied at some point to say they weren't interested vs. just disappearing.
Re: Ask HN: How's the job hunt going? (For those laid off)
#320Let me show you the backdoor: Find a company whose open source projects you are interested in. Dive in and and start fixing things. Then if you really like it after a couple weeks start nudging around for a job. If you do good work they'll just give it to you, no bullshit funnel required. I like this method because you aren't just doing l33t coding exercises to work on some sight unseen codebase that makes you suicid…
thanks. i might try this