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Ask HN: How to find a small town to relocate for remote work?

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Re: Ask HN: How to find a small town to relocate for remote work?

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> less time then you'll sit in traffic in the city going a few miles to the same thing Most people aren't going to drive for just a few miles though, surely. I'd just cycle or take one of the busses that arrive every 6 minutes. Although this is purely hypothetical, because I already have access to everything I need within walking distance. It's a bad faith argument. You've claimed that it takes much longer to get som…

Judging from all the traffic inside cities and my experiences, most people do idle for awhile in traffic just to go a few miles. The bikes are the minority vs cars sitting in the roads and all the full streets / lots, but the bike riders are generally the worst offenders on the street. Most city public transportation is sub-par quality and safety wise. I don't mind public transportation in some countries to an extent…

> your idea of small towns is quite off

My idea of small towns is based on well designed towns in central Europe. Almost everything you talk about here are problems from poorly planned suburbs, and have nothing to do with actual towns/cities.

> bikes are inconvenient because I'm most likely getting groceries for the next two weeks, or it's raining

If you can't realistically walk to a supermarket to buy groceries and carry them home, then your town is not a functional town. A lightweight rain jacket is very cheap.

> The bus is super slow with all the stops

The bus is faster in busy traffic, because the bus has dedicated lanes and routes that are not legal for cars to drive in. There are no personal cars allowed in our town center, you need to drive around the outside and find parking which is always less convenient than the bus.

> Most city public transportation is sub-par quality and safety wise.

Again, this sounds like a massive failing of infrastructure. I find busses are clean, cheap, and as safe as walking down the street.

I have a car, I understand they are sometimes necessary and that there are things which unfortunately are not possible without them right now. But for making short distance journeys on a day to day basis in your own town or city? That just shouldn't ever make sense.

Re: Ask HN: How to find a small town to relocate for remote work?

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Do you share a username between HN and Twitter? Because somebody with your username on Twitter has been publicly talking about holding somebody at gunpoint in Pine Bluff, Arkansas earlier today(1), and has in the past advertised (2) a website with the tagline of “Matching vigilantes with victims for justice and profit “ (3) 1. https://twitter.com/pontifier/status/1559001472746098693?s=2... 2. https://twitter.com/oriw…

Genuinely curious why you're intentionally misframing things this way. Is it political? Or you just don't like this guy for some reason? He's been robbed (from what I can see a dozen or more times), and in one instance called the police and held the criminal there until they arrived a few minutes later. Everything completely legal, above board, etc. This is a perfect example of someone telling the truth in such a way…

Private bounty hunter businesses are harmful to society.

Re: Ask HN: How to find a small town to relocate for remote work?

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This is where the UK is great. It has lots of well connected by train towns. You can commute for a night out in London but live a generally quiet life in anything from a tiny hamlet to something like Cambridge which is a small city.

Most places close enough for "take the train for a night out in London" will (practically by definition) be "you can commute into London for work from here" places, though, with correspondingly high house prices. Certainly Cambridge is not cheap for housing!

My wife and I just spent a month in the UK to see how we’d like it and if we’d want to move there. If you are willing to commute 40 mins (by train) there are plenty of towns with 2 bed apartments for £400k.

Re: Ask HN: How to find a small town to relocate for remote work?

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> Gentrifying a place pretty inherently means removing at least some of the people who live there. Not necessarily. You could buy a house that's empty.

And when the rent for the neighbour gets raised double because you started attracting people willing to pay double to move there...?

I don't know if you've ever lived in a place like Pine Bluff, but most people own. It's 52% in the city[0] and I imagine quite a bit higher (70-80% wouldn't surprise me) in the more rural areas. And keep in mind the way these statistics are calculated, all the vacant buildings count as part of that 48%, so the number of renters is likely ~1/3 or less the number of owners.

So unlike places with very high rents but also where it seems like 3/4 of all buildings are rented out, most people in Pine Bluff would be objectively better off if rents doubled overnight with corresponding increases to the economy and local services.

To be blunt, if you're renting you have no claim to the property or lodging beyond the term of the lease. That's the entire point. I do believe human beings have a right to housing, but you do not have the right to live in someone else's house if they don't want you there.

[0] https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/pinebluffcityarkansas

Re: Ask HN: How to find a small town to relocate for remote work?

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I’ll let you in on a little secret in the middle of California, it’s hot, but it’s an affordable little town, with just the amenities you mention. I know because I lived there most of my life. The town is Exeter.

Like I said, it’s hot there over the summer, and it’s the red middle of a blue state, but the people are very kind. They have an absolutely wonderful coffee shop downtown, a tiny brewery and pub across the street, a couple nice super markets (not so walkable), and some gas station/markets that are very walkable. We lived five minutes from downtown in a neighborhood. We paid $215k for our house, in 2015, so I’d imagine that price has gone up quite a bit, but it’s definitely affordable.

Re: Ask HN: How to find a small town to relocate for remote work?

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I went through this exercise pre-COVID. I started working remotely in 2017 as I had 17 years of experience at that point. I left Austin and moved to a small town in 2018 that's two hours west of Austin.

> Any ideas on whether this mid-sized town dream exists...

Sure it exists.

> ...and/or how we’d go about finding it?

Sure, you need to do your research and figure that out for yourself. I researched on the internet for about 18 months and did a lot of boots-on-the-ground investigation. I eventually moved to a small town in the Texas Hill Country that I adore. Low crime, very clean and beautiful environment, low cost of living, absolutely fantastic community and gigabit fiber internet.

I then bought a second, larger home in a small town a little closer to Austin that is logistically a little more convenient and not so remote. But again, it has low crime, a local hospital, HEB grocery store, fantastic community and gigabit fiber internet.

Just do your research. It's not so hard but it will take a little time.

The peace and quiet combined with the cost of living is priceless. I couldn't be happier. I love it out here.

Re: Ask HN: How to find a small town to relocate for remote work?

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I live in the outskirts of a poor rural town in NY. We have 2 bars, some restaurants, a coffee shop, a fast food chain, some dollar stores, a grocery store, hardware store, antiques, gas stations, etc, Library and a little theater, farmers market on weekends. River runs nearby with a put-in for kayaks and fishing. Biggest town/city nearby with big box stores is about 45 minutes. They have fiber internet here but it's…

Sounds like Hancock. Beautiful setting but the town seems like a constant reminder of what it used to be.

Re: Ask HN: How to find a small town to relocate for remote work?

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post #294

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Genuinely curious why you're intentionally misframing things this way. Is it political? Or you just don't like this guy for some reason? He's been robbed (from what I can see a dozen or more times), and in one instance called the police and held the criminal there until they arrived a few minutes later. Everything completely legal, above board, etc. This is a perfect example of someone telling the truth in such a way…

Private bounty hunter businesses are harmful to society.

If they are, then they should be illegal. If they are illegal, and this qualifies, then this guy should be punished.

None of this negates anything I said previously.

Re: Ask HN: How to find a small town to relocate for remote work?

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Was going to say something similar. Having grown up in a small idyllic town, there was beauty in the slow struggle to live there. OP would do well to try and learn the culture before seeking to change it. There’s value beyond “cheaper houses” and “craft beer” in these places.

As someone from a small town in a rural area, can you expand on what values you have in mind? What I saw was grinding poverty, bad schools, bottom tier education, and rampant drug abuse. Coincidentally the novel/film Winter’s Bone author portrayed this area, north Arkansas and southern Missouri.

The excellent serial podcast S*Town did a great job too, on exploring these themes.

https://stownpodcast.org/

Re: Ask HN: How to find a small town to relocate for remote work?

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My method sure hasn't worked very well... or has it? I was looking for cheap warehouse space to start a business in, and did a nation-wide search for the largest, cheapest building in the entire continental US. I found one that seemed too good to be true. a 220,000 sqft metal warehouse and office complex on 17 acres. I thought the price was a typo at $375k.The agent assured me that the price was correct, and I flew o…

Just skimming the Wikipedia page for that place shows red flags all over the place. The population has been sharply declining since 1970 and the homicide rate is 56 per 100,000 vs the national average of 6.5. Clearly something is very wrong with the local government and population.

It's called poverty. Welcome to rural America. Went down the shitter when industry left and the rest of the country ignored it for decades, so now we have MAGA, drugs and crime, and a whole lotta cheap land.
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