Are they happy with 8hr a day? I keep worrying that I'd have to put in 12 hr shifts to keep up with the graduate hires.
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FAAMG is so much more appropriate to describe the dominant tech players. People just like the sound of "FAANG". Netflix doesn't come close to matching Microsoft or the others.
I keep hearing FAMGAN to describe these, Facebook Apple Microsoft Google Amazon Netflix.
It probably depends on the criteria. Is this the biggest West Coast relatively sexy tech employers or is it the large-ish companies with the highest average comp for a given level of software engineer? (I actually agree that, in general, Microsoft probably belongs on the list more than Netflix does.)
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#314> I normally work about one day trickle out my changes during the the week. The other days I only open my computer for standup and if I get an IM. There is a term for this called "sandbagging." > I don't feel what I'm doing is ethnically wrong, because the company is evidently pleased with my current productivity, but I find it unsatisfying and like a waste of my time on earth. Sounds like you have a motivation and p…
> Those kids of work may even help get you promoted and open up more interesting projects.
Do you have any anecdotes in support of this view? My general understanding is that working on such things (if it isn't part of your explicit job description) is usually met by at best gratitude from other people, but certainly not promotions. And there are definite risks: since it is time spent not on your "actual" job, it can show up in performance cycles especially with a mediocre manager.
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#316I think in general there is a negative relationship between money and interesting work. There are definitely outliers, but you have to get lucky (or unlucky).
At one end of the spectrum, you can come up with a great idea and spend day and night working on it as a solo founder. Your wage might be 0, but the work will be as interesting as can possibly be since you are the only one deciding what you are working on.
At the other end of this, you can imagine a hypothetical position where for $5,000,0000/year, you would do anything you are asked no matter how boring.
Where you exist on this scale is up to you.
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That would be nice, but I'm responsible for all our bills and I can't get a job that pays the same or better due to my experience in obscure tech, like Neoxam. I'll just continue to grind in this job until I get fired, die, or hopefully can retire someday (maybe coastFI).
Yeah, it's never simple unfortunately. Good luck all the same.
You too!
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>So at least what I did is stop trying to put so much of an expectation on my job to fulfill me. I took responsibility to find and do things at and especially outside of my day job that did fulfill me. I'm not debating you but I just want to point out that your advice depends on the personality. It may even work for most workers but for some us, we cannot mentally "compartmentalize" the day job as the isolated 9-to-5…
With all due respect, the fact that you haven't found that "dream job" yet kind of proves the commenter's point. I'd love to work a "dream job" myself, it just doesn't exist. The whole purpose of a job is to make a company money, and money just never really motivated me other than in the freedom it buys me to not have to sell my time. Everything I enjoy doesn't make money, and if I wanted to "monetize" any of my hobb…
True enough. Have you tried to get a paying job playing with puppies for example? It's hard enough to get a volunteer position for that.
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#319Smaller firms will have more greenfield opportunities that allow you to move at a much faster pace. Larger enterprises (FAANG or not) will have software that "works", and to make changes to it requires more consideration across the board.
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#320Yes and No. I worked at a big company where on my own initiative I automated 40% of the QA processes. It was great because I was productive and received recognition. It was also frustrating because I delivered 5x value more than my coworkers but was paid similarly. The company limited raises to 10%. I did get rewarded with non monetary things. I took 8 weeks of vacation, tagged along on any international trip the dir…
Yea I walk anytime I sit across from a manager and they say our corporate raise limit is x. Its terribly discouraging and makes me want to burn the building down. I should be paid for a portion of the value I'm adding to the company. If I wrote software in 3 months that billed out over 500k every 12 months, I expect a substantial raise or bonus not 3,5, 10%..