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I miss the days of daily Haskell posts.
"tell me you like Haskell without telling me you like Haskell" moment
I mean, he basically said directly that he likes Haskell lol
Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything else/other?"
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Re: Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything else/other?"
#302No, I have zero interest in LLM and ignoring the posts has worked fine for me. The political posts are causing more damage IMO. There is also a "hide" button if you keep seeing a lingering high activity post.
But finding out that LLMs are used to push the political posts in such obvious ways yet people are still falling for it is a somewhat interesting topic. Regardless whether that just pushes your bias towards LLMs == bad or tweaks you to spin up your own LLM to combat by searching/detecting/posting the slop. Burying your head in the sand and ignoring all of it is not good either.
I would absolutely click on an article about the detection of AI and how to get rid of fake accounts. Or how AI is being used to scam people. But I couldn't care less about turdF1nger.6i and it's 3.4b paramters.
Re: Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything else/other?"
#303People who are a little late to the site may not know there was a time on HN where Erlang has even more frontage submission than the best of AI / LLM. Ruby Rails, Postgres, SQLite, Rust, etc. They all have their moments and I dont think LLM right now is as overwhelming as any other hyped moments. Certainly not Erlang.
I hope I'm not the only one here who never heard of Erlang until I read your comment (I arrived in 2016).
Re: Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything else/other?"
#304People who are a little late to the site may not know there was a time on HN where Erlang has even more frontage submission than the best of AI / LLM. Ruby Rails, Postgres, SQLite, Rust, etc. They all have their moments and I dont think LLM right now is as overwhelming as any other hyped moments. Certainly not Erlang.
That was very different. Somehow the entire front page was Erlang, but it was only for a day or 2. AI is different from that. It's like a good 40-50% of the posts for at least a year or more, and I don't see it going away anytime soon. It's also different from web3/etc. as those were at most 10% of the posts and most of us can see it's just hype. I'm not fighting for a split/fork, just stating the fact that it's noth…
Re: Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything else/other?"
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IIRC that was a deliberate campaign to make the site unattractive to a spate of non-technical folks who had apparently all simultaneously discovered it.
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=512145 "We've had a huge spike in traffic lately, from roughly 24k daily uniques to 33k. This is a result of being mentioned on more mainstream sites [...] You can help the spike subside by making HN look extra boring. For the next couple days it would be better to have posts about the innards of Erlang [...]" "Ok, ok, enough Erlang submissions. You guys are like the crowdsourced…
lol ask a community of autists for more posts about the innards of Erlang, don't be surprised when you get posts about the innards of Erlang.
Re: Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything else/other?"
#306I built you this: https://tools.simonwillison.net/hacker-news-filtered It shows you the Hacker News page with ai and llm stories filtered out. You can change the exclusion terms and save your changes in localStorage. o3 knocked it out for me in a couple of minutes: https://chatgpt.com/share/68766f42-1ec8-8006-8187-406ef452e0... Initial prompt was: Build a web tool that displays the Hacker News homepage (fetched from…
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Please don't cross into personal attack.
Re: Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything else/other?"
#307I built you this: https://tools.simonwillison.net/hacker-news-filtered It shows you the Hacker News page with ai and llm stories filtered out. You can change the exclusion terms and save your changes in localStorage. o3 knocked it out for me in a couple of minutes: https://chatgpt.com/share/68766f42-1ec8-8006-8187-406ef452e0... Initial prompt was: Build a web tool that displays the Hacker News homepage (fetched from…
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Please don't cross into personal attack.
Re: Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything else/other?"
#308It is reducing my desire to read this site. I don't have anything against the subject matter necessarily, and sometimes it can be interesting, but in large parts it is attracting very low quality discussions and content about vibe coding X product.
Can you link to some specific examples of low-quality discussions?
As with any Major Ongoing Topic on HN (https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...), the goal is to reserve frontpage space for the higher-quality stories and try to downweight the follow-ups and low-quality ones. We can't do this perfectly, of course, but we try.
Re: Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything else/other?"
#309I have seen this question asked on subreddits, Not about AI, but for other topics that some people dislike. They always seem to take the form of "Should we divide this group into A and B, A stays here and B goes over there and that way everybody is happy" Invariably the person who proposes this wants to remain in group A and will not be a participant in group B. To me this seems like the subtext is "Those people are…
To begin with, this would be a non issue if HN just introduced something like user provided tags and users can vote for/against (to circumvent abuse) Then the people wanting to filter "x" could just do it via simple grease monkey scripts or if HN natively supported it. Sure, it wouldn't be perfect, but neither does it have to be.
No. HN is good as it is and I find it disrespectful when newcomers are demanding changes like this. There's a good reason the forum has stayed the same for almost 20 years.
Re: Ask HN: Is it time to fork HN into AI/LLM and "Everything else/other?"
#310This happened with X/Twitter. What it resulted in was a sycophantic hug-box on Bluesky and amplified social-darwinist amoral techno-capitalism on the former site. I believe splitting the rare congregations of diversely oriented smart people leads to worse outcomes for everyone, as better ideas/conversations emerge from opposing sides rubbing up against each other. Bifurcating HN would probably lead to a hype-driven, noisy AI side and a myopic, increasingly anachronistic non-AI side.