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Re: Ask HN: Should you reply STOP to unwanted texts?

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Even worse if someone else signs up somehow using your contact info. I got signed up (via email thankfully) for a political party in another country and no amount of "mark as spam", unsubscribe or replying would get me off the list. Eventually I just had to create a filter that dumps those messages in the trash. It must be something with non-U.S. English speaking countries because I get numerous semi-spam messages in…

Is the email in question something along the lines of firstnamelastname at gmail? I'm guessing your email address is a really common name that someone else keeps forgetting how their email actually deviates, or someone typos writing theirs.

Another possible scenario is that Gmail is getting wires crossed. I have had the account firstname.lastname@gmail.com for 20 years now. About 5 years ago, some dude in Australia (who coincidentally has the same rare last name as me) started using firstnamelastname@gmail.com. Based on the emails I've seen I believe that Gmail let him do this for a while, but eventually started delivering his emails into my inbox. I don't know if there was a technical change in Gmail for how they handled these addresses or what, but it's very odd.

Re: Ask HN: Should you reply STOP to unwanted texts?

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The law specifically exempts such texts from being covered, sadly.

Proof laws don't work.

Well... proof that we can't trust politicians to pass laws that are good for us but bad for them, at any rate.

Re: Ask HN: Should you reply STOP to unwanted texts?

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Beware the edge case: I responded STOP to a message years ago, then was unable to receive SMS from a popular money transmission app during the signup flow to claim funds that a friend sent me. After over a month of troubleshooting, it turns out that I had sent "STOP" to that number years ago on a different device (no longer visible in chat history) and now had to send "UNSTOP" in order to receive the phone verificati…

I’ve encountered a couple instances of businesses that 1) send me unsolicited marketing mail, 2) react to that being flagged as spam by internally blocklisting me, then 3) silently fail to send transactional mail such as password resets.

Re: Ask HN: Should you reply STOP to unwanted texts?

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For political spam I have a rule that I refuse to vote for any candidate who directly or indirectly sends me a text asking for their vote. If everyone did that, perhaps fewer politicians would go this route.

Even for president or senator? I usually get texts for both main party candidates at some point in the election cycle, seems a bit drastic not to note vote for President or vote or write-in someone whom you share no values but refrains from spamming SMS

I absolutely refuse to vote for anyone who does this, and if it means I don't vote so be it. No exceptions.

Besides which, I never share values with the candidates for national office anyways. Nobody is willing to actually protect civil liberties any more, and I'm not going to vote for someone who will take away my freedom when it's politically expedient.

Re: Ask HN: Should you reply STOP to unwanted texts?

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Is the email in question something along the lines of firstnamelastname at gmail? I'm guessing your email address is a really common name that someone else keeps forgetting how their email actually deviates, or someone typos writing theirs.

Another possible scenario is that Gmail is getting wires crossed. I have had the account firstname.lastname@gmail.com for 20 years now. About 5 years ago, some dude in Australia (who coincidentally has the same rare last name as me) started using firstnamelastname@gmail.com. Based on the emails I've seen I believe that Gmail let him do this for a while, but eventually started delivering his emails into my inbox. I do…

firstname.lastname@gmail.com and firstnamelastname@gmail.com are the same address, according to gmail documentation. If this is what is actually happening (and there isn't a subtle typo, etc.), then something is more wrong than "wires crossed" & you should report it as a security vulnerability.

https://support.google.com/mail/answer/7436150?hl=en#:~:text...

https://www.google.com/appserve/security-bugs/m2/new

Re: Ask HN: Should you reply STOP to unwanted texts?

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I have gotten three kinds of those: 1. Someone texting the previous owner of my number (John). I got all kinds of traffic for him, including debt collectors, friends, ex-girlfriends, employers, etc. I gather John ran into a spot of financial trouble, dropped his phone-number, and skipped town. 2. An old high-school classmate trying to find my mom found my number on one of those people search sites, probably associate…

3. is a romance scam. pig butchering/romance scams take place over multiple months, not one texting session

Could be, yeah. I'm a bit skeptical though. This took place months ago, and the conversation ended in a pretty reasonable place, something like "nice to meet you, take care" from me. I would have expected a few more engagement attempts from her if she wanted to scam me.

Re: Ask HN: Should you reply STOP to unwanted texts?

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> What I want to know is, what's the purpose of those random texts that just say something like, "How's it been?" from a number that I've never communicated with? What's the angle there? Anyone know? My understanding is that they will pretend it's a wrong number, but then make a joke or talk about some innocuous hobby and try to build up trust over weeks/months to eventually phish or scam you. I forget where I read i…

I have gotten three kinds of those: 1. Someone texting the previous owner of my number (John). I got all kinds of traffic for him, including debt collectors, friends, ex-girlfriends, employers, etc. I gather John ran into a spot of financial trouble, dropped his phone-number, and skipped town. 2. An old high-school classmate trying to find my mom found my number on one of those people search sites, probably associate…

3. Ummm... hate to break it to you, but that's the start of the scam. Hope you don't fall deeper into that convo!

Re: Ask HN: Should you reply STOP to unwanted texts?

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Speaking mostly for the US here. The STOP keyword is mandated as unsubscribe at the carrier level (Verizon, ATT, TMo) not just the vendor level. So if you reply STOP, it's very likely that you will not receive another message from that number. This will be true for any programmatic SMS vendor. There could be smaller scale & more manual approaches, but that would be rare. There has been a big effort in the last year+…

You need to up the swag on your online persona. I get this message from "rich horsey lady" periodically: >I'm Alyssa. are you the equestrian instructor that Tina referred me to? >I'm very sorry, I just checked the number and it was my assistant who sent the wrong number, I hope I'm not disturbing you. >Thank you for understanding, you are a friendly person, I have found the right number, your number and the riding in…

Just to screw with them, you should make a fake business website for Tina the Trainer, with that phone number listed and everything and AI photos of fake lessons with Alyssa.

Re: Ask HN: Should you reply STOP to unwanted texts?

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I don't see how there could be an argument for protected speech here. The constitution protects your ability to petition the government, not the government's ability to petition you.

If someone is campaigning to be in government, I guess they don't technically fall under the "government" category yet...

And if they were running for reelection?
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