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why do Apple users give so much benefit of the doubt to these people despite all evidence?
because they have a track record of mostly decent design decisions
IME it's the opposite
Ask HN: Why does Apple refuse to add window snapping to macOS?
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Re: Ask HN: Why does Apple refuse to add window snapping to macOS?
#302Well, because it has? Hover over the green stoplight, you get a popover with fullscreen options. Press Option and the fullscreen options mutate into snap left/snap right/zoom. These can also be found in the Window menu. Again, press option to mutate the fullscreen ones to snap. And since these are menu options, one can set any keyboard shortcut of their choosing through the keyboard shortcut prefpane+. So it is not "…
It's much worse than Ubuntu or Windows though. I just want to snap a window to the sides. The macOS solution forces you to go full screen to snap.
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Re: Ask HN: Why does Apple refuse to add window snapping to macOS?
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That's awful. Instead of windows where you can BAM drag a window to one side and snap it in 0.2 seconds, you have to hover over the window, wait a second, press option, wait .1 second, figure out which option you want, mouse over to it, then finally click it. That's insane.
> Instead of windows where you can BAM drag a window to one side and snap it in 0.2 seconds You can do just that. Drag it to either side to make it half-width or to the top to make if full width and height.
Still sounds like a miserable experience compared to fancyzones though
Re: Ask HN: Why does Apple refuse to add window snapping to macOS?
#304https://patents.google.com/patent/US6661436B2/en Method for providing window snap control for a split screen computer program GUI https://patents.justia.com/patent/6661436 https://discussions.apple.com/thread/250201392 https://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2021/07/gnome-shell-quarter-tili...
IANAL, but, “Status: Expired - Lifetime”
2022-04-19 Adjusted expiration
Re: Ask HN: Why does Apple refuse to add window snapping to macOS?
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My favorite is how, if you have multiple windows of the same app visible, when you cmd-tab to that app, it moves all of the windows to the top of the stack. So if you want to switch between windows of two different apps, you better hide the ones you don't use.
For me it's almost the opposite. I can't cmd-tab between different windows of the same app. I can use cmd+~ to switch between windows of the same app, but I always forget that and end up cmd+tab'ing though all my apps trying to find where my second Chrome window is.
How the hell have I never come across Cmd ~ before?!!
Thank you so much!!!
Re: Ask HN: Why does Apple refuse to add window snapping to macOS?
#306I always feel like Apple must have some grand 1000IQ concept for window management and I just don't get it. Stage Manager, Spaces, Mission Control, Expose, Window Zooming, Hiding, Minimizing (which is different from Hiding), Fullscreen/Splitscreen... yet the first thing I do is install a third-party window manager. I tried for months to go vanilla and get my head around the features. But why, why do fullscreen window…
The idea behind macOS window management is to not manage windows at all, instead letting them exist at sizes that fit their content in whichever position they land on your desktop, stacking and overlapping like papers on a desk, letting relevant bits peek through without requiring the entirety of their host windows being visible. Exposé/Mission Control are there when a window gets lost, and virtual desktops are meant…
> it's quite different from Windows, where it's the norm to maximize everything.
Where did you get this idea? It's definitely not the norm and MSFT supports an excellent tiling window system: https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/powertoys/fancyzon...
Even without that utility though, it's easy to snap windows to one side or another of a monitor - particularly useful for ultra widescreen monitors
Re: Ask HN: Why does Apple refuse to add window snapping to macOS?
#307I remember when I brought a Windows laptop (it was my personal dev machine at the time) to an Apple interview, and the interviewee saw me organize my windows in a couple seconds to the sides and he was like "whoa, windows is neat".
"oh, uh. Yeah."
:)
Re: Ask HN: Why does Apple refuse to add window snapping to macOS?
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Apple refuses to do things all the time. Aside from the aforementioned window-management gaffes, here's what I think is the most ridiculous design defect of the iPhone, which I reported first as an engineer there and repeatedly as an independent dev: It does not provide audible notifications of MISSED CALLS. I mean... WTF? A 1990s StarTAC (and probably most other phones) provided this obvious feature. So did 1980s an…
“Apple” is too broad. Likely some mid-level manager made the decision to do nothing and never revisited. I remember a bug I wrote 15? years ago for gtk/gnome file manager. The left pane tree widget doesn’t support the arrow keys we used extensively in WinXP. Also doesn’t support the full context menu. Why? No reason, some mid-level person decided the left pane should be gimped.
> gnome
Gnome is the Apple of Linux world. A lot of Linux people hate gnome.
Re: Ask HN: Why does Apple refuse to add window snapping to macOS?
#309Well, because it has? Hover over the green stoplight, you get a popover with fullscreen options. Press Option and the fullscreen options mutate into snap left/snap right/zoom. These can also be found in the Window menu. Again, press option to mutate the fullscreen ones to snap. And since these are menu options, one can set any keyboard shortcut of their choosing through the keyboard shortcut prefpane+. So it is not "…
Also, there's Magnet which does KDE-like window snapping since ages. It's not expensive, works flawlessly and doesn't tax your system in any way.
Re: Ask HN: Why does Apple refuse to add window snapping to macOS?
#310I don’t think I can use macOS without rectangle.