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Ask HN: Am I getting older or did typing on the iPhone become unbearable?

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Post by llamaimperative »

nawgz wrote: post #287
iroddis wrote: post #270

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This how I operated for a long time as well, but made liberal use of text replacement for frequent things like il -> I’ll. Unfortunately, when I got a Mac laptop, those replacements were synched and for some reason can’t be disabled on just one device. Now I’m back to autocorrect, fighting with the AI to learn technical terms and command line entries for when I need to talk to colleagues over chat.

Why would you use autocorrect on a keyboard?

GP is saying he would like not to but cannot shut it off because they’re not using autocorrect but text replacements. It does make sense in the general case to sync text replacements, just not if you’re using it in place of autocorrect

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Post by etrautmann »

danrochman wrote: post #76
etrautmann wrote: post #45

Yep! It’s so incredibly hard now. My error rate is extremely high and the prosperity of the iPhone to change things I’ve intended to type, and then do it three times in a row when I’m trying to force a specific word, drives me mad.

Like when you're trying to type "propensity", and it autocorrects to "prosperity"?

haha wow....yes

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Post by dadof4 »

If you think the autocorrect and text manipulation is bad on the standard iOS keyboard, you should try typing with the Grammarly keyboard. The autocorrect and cursor navigation is horrible. You may have better grammar, but the words are a garbled mess that don't have suggestions.

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Post by etrautmann »

kbelder wrote: post #92
danrochman wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Like when you're trying to type "propensity", and it autocorrects to "prosperity"?

I'm continuously amazed at how many HN posters are posting from their phone. What a nightmare.

well, I read it on my phone... Definitely not easy to compose, or write at all though

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Post by jbverschoor »

snowwrestler wrote: post #39

When the iPhone launched, Apple talked a lot about how the typing system worked. What I remember is that it sounded like pretty simple lookups. As you typed, the software compared your word to, essentially, a weighted dictionary to guess what you were going to type next. If you typed “b” it was flummoxed. But if you typed “behav” it knew the next letter was almost certainly going to be “e” or “i” (for behavior). It m…

It's not just the keyboard. It's also siri.. I tell siri to call XXXXXXX. I see on my screen it actually understood me, and then it changed the name into someone else who I never ever call.

Alls this "ai" stuff drives me crazy. It's just plain unpredictable. I prefer predictability in my daily drivers, and I'll go for "ai" when I need it.

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Post by jbverschoor »

projektfu wrote: post #281
novok wrote: post #211

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Reminds me of how much worse siri is getting every year, where it bit flips what I say to the opposite. Makes me think they're using ML models for everything which never gets anything right with %99.9 accuracy. "Hey siri turn off the bedroom lights", "Ok, turning on the bedroom". Recently tried alexa again with an old echo dot and it worked way better with basic things like I remembered it. Super sad.

Siri has languished in nifty feature hell. Apple bought it to look futuristic but hasn't made it useful. "Hey Siri, check my messages on WhatsApp" "You'll have to unlock your phone" If I could handle the phone right now I wouldn't be asking.... "hey Siri, what commands do you know?" "I can't do that." "Hey Siri, remind me to call Bill on Thursday" (tiny pause before on Thursday with continuation sounds like "uh") "Ok…

Siri is unusable except for the following:

- open an app. (Say Apple Podcasts, otherwise it'll open deezer)

- call a contact (but randomly replaces your most frequently called person with someone I've spoken 10+ years ago)

- set a timer

- set an alarm

that's really it. Reminders work like shit, exactly like you said.

If siri doesn't know what to do with a contact, it asks you what you wanna do, and then doesn't understand it. I turn all this crap off as much as I can. Just a bunch of wasted dev-time, battery-time, and chip/die realestate which could be used for anything else.

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Post by gbourne »

stouset wrote: post #263
snowwrestler wrote: post #39

When the iPhone launched, Apple talked a lot about how the typing system worked. What I remember is that it sounded like pretty simple lookups. As you typed, the software compared your word to, essentially, a weighted dictionary to guess what you were going to type next. If you typed “b” it was flummoxed. But if you typed “behav” it knew the next letter was almost certainly going to be “e” or “i” (for behavior). It m…

Worse is its insistence on continuing to autocorrect words I’ve just gone back to fix. If I type some letters, it autocorrects, I explicitly backspace to delete the autocorrection, and then type the exact same thing again , for the love of god stop “helpfully” correcting it for me again to the exact same thing I just undid. This seems like such low-hanging fruit it's baffling that it's still an issue and I say this a…

Yes! I can ignore suggestions, but when the autocorrect corrects my correction I feel like I'm in a game of whose's on first? Eventually you need to tap another button to keep the spelling you want.

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Post by jbverschoor »

mathieuh wrote: post #51
snowwrestler wrote: post #39

When the iPhone launched, Apple talked a lot about how the typing system worked. What I remember is that it sounded like pretty simple lookups. As you typed, the software compared your word to, essentially, a weighted dictionary to guess what you were going to type next. If you typed “b” it was flummoxed. But if you typed “behav” it knew the next letter was almost certainly going to be “e” or “i” (for behavior). It m…

Do people actually send messages to each other like that? I modified all the precomposed replies on my watch to remove capitals and punctuation. Using capitals and punctuation raises the register of the message for me, and 99% of the time if I’m sending a text it’s to friends or family.

If you're in the car, it's nice, but it simply doesn't work.. So what d you do? You first struggle 2 minutes with the phone, and fixing all the mess it made, and then just pick up the phone and quickly type a message in 10 seconds. With or without autofrustrate
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