At first I was interested in the tool, but seeing how long it’s taken him and his struggles to get things working has convinced me that he probably would have been better served to just learn Python.
Ask HN: What do you think about the no-code movement?
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#303I hate it. Some time (not long) ago I was working remotely on some software that was driven by an API on a remote server maintained by some folks in a different country. A long way from me. Cutting a long story short I realised that the lack of control over the server was because they really did not know how it worked, or how to fix it or diagnose issues their server was having. It was a laraval/MS-SQL system built f…
What do you think about "serverless" architecture where everything server related is handled for you and all you have to worry about is code? I'm talking about services such as Azure Functions, AWS lambda, etc..
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#304Earlier quoted context omitted.
>The ultimate "low code" experience I had was back in the 1990s with Delphi. You drag and drop your form elements, get everything just right. Next you hook up your event handlers and type in a few lines of code to do the actual work. Today I was thinking about Visual Basic 6, which worked more or less the same way. I wonder what similar alternatives we have today? Gambas? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambas
You can do "drag and drop form elements and type up the event handlers" with Visual Studio and C#. The problem is that Microsoft have rather lost their way on GUI frameworks - too many of them and the latest ones are either "to be obsolete" or "not finished yet" (winui3), and winui3 has broken the interactive designer. Theoretically it can be multi-platform https://platform.uno/
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#305The thing is, these solutions probably couldn't be delivered by non-engineers, but these people are able to move extremely quick because of the platform.
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#306Video of the tool i built: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6_NJ8zcm8o
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#307Earlier quoted context omitted.
Maintainability is always the issue, even for the things made from code. What do you think will happen if the no-code platforms become open source?
Every general no code platform I've worked with has had an order of magnitude (sometimes, multiple) worse maintainability story than code alternatives. And admittedly, maybe I've worked with a series of terrible ones, but I've also worked with a lot of popular ones that big enterprises are adopting. As for open source, I'd say zero percent chance that happens, because no code solves problems developers don't have: (1…
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#308I think it's great to see the commoditization of solved problems. On the other hand, I'm not surprised to see developers hating on the idea because our industry has spent decades telling everybody these are difficult problems and they need to hire experts to help solve them.
I had to fix a SharePoint workflow that indefinitely kicked off several workflows, and each workflow kicked off other workflows all being stuck in loops. A single workflow could have thousands of workflows kicking off... Guess who they let make something that simple? Some generic business analyst who left and nobody else knew how to support it. That second last word there is why developers will never go away.
For every "app" like that, which grows up and needs support, there are dozens of others that serve out their usefulness and go away, or just live on in obscurity in some person's personal workflow.
And generic business analysts are hardly the only ones who write bad code...
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#310I have been a professional programmer for forty years. In the eighties, there was a no-code desktop relational database application called Helix. I continue to think that it belongs on the same shelf as Excel in the UI hall of fame. Like Excel, people made applications with it. Unlike Excel, it created a server product in the mid-eighties that allowed it to become an IT platform. Small business owners who had hacked…
To be fair, we've probably all seen applications written by professional software engineers that fit that description..