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Ask HN: People who completed a bootcamp 3+ years ago: what are you doing now?

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Re: Ask HN: People who completed a bootcamp 3+ years ago: what are you doing now?

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> Bootcamp grad here who mentioned it prominently in my resume and blogged my experience and put up a YouTube video once a week while I was going through. Mind telling us who you are so we can take a look at your code and background? YouTube channel and GitHub would be helpful for us in assessing what you learned when you went to the bootcamp. > I'm not sure who filters out bootcamp grads, but I can say Google, FB, A…

> "Mind telling us who you are so we can take a look at your code and background? YouTube channel and GitHub would be helpful for us in assessing what you learned when you went to the bootcamp."

I don't really need validation from you and you've clearly got an ax to grind. I have linked to both previously if you care to go digging in my account history. Heck, this site is where I first met the cofounder of the school! I've put virtually nothing on Github since taking my first tech job. If you do go digging and choose to make comments about me personally, I'd appreciate it if you did so via the email address linked in the blog rather than in this thread (which I believe is against the site guidelines anyway).

> "Why did you end up working at a startup? YC startups are great. But they're still not Apple."

> "Well you wanted to come in, namedrop all these companies. Despite how popular you are with Google, Apple, Facebook, you don't even manage to mitigate or point out the survivorship bias."

Apple was actually pretty far down my list of choices due to being way down in Cupertino. I very seriously considered both Google and Facebook and to be 100% honest very nearly went with Google. I picked the YC startup because of two things—they moved very quickly compared to big companies and their mission aligned quite a bit with my own. The founders were great and I don't regret having picked them over a giant company for an instant.

My intent wasn't to "name drop". It was to address your claim about recruiters throwing out candidates who went to coding schools. None of the most desirable companies I know of do that.

I personally saw many, many classmates and people in later classes make huge positive changes in their careers or lives due to the program. Sharing this fact isn't "shilling to innocent people dreams of 100k jobs and working at Google".

> "Your HN account age isn't your coding ability."

Of course not. It's an indication I'm not a sock puppet. You've replied to others in this thread, implying there was something shady about their accounts being new (while using a throwaway yourself).

> "How about you show us your credentials so we can see?"

No. The major rift in all threads like this is a difference in opinion about the primacy of credentials. I don't subscribe to the point of veiw that they correlate extremely strongly with skill. This industry has decades of history of engineers without degrees doing remarkable things.

> "If not, it's hard to give your account credibility. There had to be a reason why you were such a celebrity with all these companies, have a YouTube, but can't show it."

I'm not keen to open myself up to personal attacks from someone with an ax to grind. I do not and have not made the claim that I am any sort of celebrity.

My claim is this: Even with evidence of my having attended a bootcamp on my resume, my personal site and my social media (none of which have huge numbers of followers), my applications to those companies were not discarded. It doesn't mean there was special treatment. It just means I had a chance to be evaluated in pre-screening challenges and then in technical interviews.

Re: Ask HN: People who completed a bootcamp 3+ years ago: what are you doing now?

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Is anyone surprised by the amount bootcamp folks in this thread who are now in "Senior" roles after only a few years? I'm not trying to diminish their accomplishment; Their accomplishment is astounding. But are bootcamps really that effective? I remember interviewing a ton of bootcamp grads from a couple of schools in Austin, TX and being largely unimpressed. You know that feeling after you interview someone where yo…

I mean, I should not be senior. I should not have been the only web dev as my first job out of a bootcamp. That is insane. But, bizarrely, in this world of start-ups and feature pushing, shit has yet to hit the fan.

I think it helps I routinely push for that promised, mythical senior developer and instead they give more more classes, pair programming with senior devs of my choosing, etc. Perhaps my complete (justified) awareness I am way over my head is the prerequisite fire to keep me always drinking from the fire hose of knowledge. Who knows.

I will say that it seems baby startups who have to choose between cheap(er) bootcamp grads who know how to get a beta out quickly, cheap(er) fresh CS grads who often don't know how to get a beta out quickly, and more expensive experienced people often chose the bootcamp grad.

I said in my interview they should get a senior dev. They said they couldn't afford one. And here we are 3.5 years later.

Re: Ask HN: People who completed a bootcamp 3+ years ago: what are you doing now?

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As a dev I've always suspected programming was easy, but never really thought it was this easy. Literally anyone can pick it up in a few weeks. That's surprisingly depressing.

Are you really not aware of the extreme selection bias that's going on in this thread?

There seems to be a 95% do-well rate among replies here, and that's on top of being a tech forum to begin with.

Re: Ask HN: People who completed a bootcamp 3+ years ago: what are you doing now?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

While thats generally true, it can take years for people to get the hang of developing software, which I would distinguish from just programming.

That distinction clearly doesn't matter to employers. As this thread demonstrates, anyone can make 6 figures after spending a few weeks learning to program. They have every bit as much market value as long time software developers do. It's only a matter of time (a year or two at most) before we're all paid slightly more than janitors - the field clearly (demonstrably) has no barrier to entry whatsoever. Literally any…

What you're posting is provably false. There's a huge barrier to entry that's obscured by being selective in reading replies and your own confirmation biases.

It doesn't contribute in any way to the discussion and is misleading and quite toxic to be honest.

Re: Ask HN: People who completed a bootcamp 3+ years ago: what are you doing now?

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I completed my bootcamp exactly 3 years ago (python), currently I am a Systems Engineer at a competitive start up in NYC, before that I was a Backend Software Dev at a fast growing start up in Seattle. There was some luck involved but overall my career change couldnt have gone better.

I think my bootcamp prepared me about as well as anyone could reasonably ask, 8 weeks included 1) decent introduction to algos + data structures, 2) overview of django / flask / pyramid, 3) introduction to machine learning + data science with python, 4) 2 portfolio projects, 5) overview of relational databases, 6) intro devops (i.e. deploy python app to aws). Probably missing a few things, but this was most of it.

That said I had done a significant amount of self directed learning prior to the bootcamp, 2-3 CS courses on EDX + a lot of tinkering. I think I eventually would have arrived at the same skill set without a bootcamp, but it was undoubtedly the right decision to go.

I cant account for everyone, but I believe most of my bootcamp cohorts are working as devs (at least, I run into them at conferences / see their updates on FB / etc). It took me about 10 weeks to find a job, the people with no prior coding experience took a bit longer.

Am happy to answer any more questions you may have.

Re: Ask HN: People who completed a bootcamp 3+ years ago: what are you doing now?

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Hai guysss; I'm a queer latina full-stack dev in SF and I went to Ironhack spring of 2015. I attended their second cohort in Miami (they're one of the first bootcamps in Europe, not so known here) and I been happily coding ever since. The biggest value that bootcamps offer is an opportunity to learn new skills at whatever point you are in life. This to me meant an entry point into software after a short career as a financial analyst -- despite the fact that I carry around student debt for two B.A.s from a top American uni. What other channels are out there for highly motivated individuals from non-traditional backgrounds? I def couldn't afford to go back to uni for a CS degree. Anyways, I got a job right out of Ironhack, took a break to backpack in Asia and moved across the country and now started a full-stack dev position at a company I'm psyched about in SF. NOTE-- being a dev is CONSTANT learning. I been taking classes online ever since I finished Ironhack to keep myself competitive and fill in gaps of knowledge. This is sometimes everyone does even if they got a traditional CS degree (right?).

And oh yeah, most of my peeps from Ironhack are still coding too.

Re: Ask HN: People who completed a bootcamp 3+ years ago: what are you doing now?

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Hai guysss; I'm a queer latina full-stack dev in SF and I went to Ironhack spring of 2015. I attended their second cohort in Miami (they're one of the first bootcamps in Europe, not so known here) and I been happily coding ever since. The biggest value that bootcamps offer is an opportunity to learn new skills at whatever point you are in life. This to me meant an entry point into software after a short career as a financial analyst -- despite the fact that I carry around student debt for two B.A.s from a top American uni. What other channels are out there for highly motivated individuals from non-traditional backgrounds? I def couldn't afford to go back to uni for a CS degree. Anyways, I got a job right out of Ironhack, took a break to backpack in Asia and moved across the country and now started a full-stack dev position at a company I'm psyched about in SF. NOTE-- being a dev is CONSTANT learning. I been taking classes online ever since I finished Ironhack to keep myself competitive and fill in gaps of knowledge. This is sometimes everyone does even if they got a traditional CS degree (right?).

And oh yeah, most of my peeps from Ironhack are still coding too.

Re: Ask HN: People who completed a bootcamp 3+ years ago: what are you doing now?

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post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can't work at Starbucks and read HN? Seriously, though, after some early career burnout I did a stint at a restaurant job to pay the bills while I decided what I wanted to do with my life...and that was by far my most productive period of time as far as keeping up on general tech news, personal projects, academic research/reading/conferences, etc... A non-code day job can be a great way to have the mental energy…

There is a YouTuber I like to watch sometimes because he occasionally uploads videos demonstrating really unique and high level programming skills. His day job? A bus driver. I saw that in the comment section of YouTube, people always ask him "why don't you go code for a job and make tons of money!". His response is that coding is something loves to do, and he wouldn't want to risk losing that love for it, by making…

I believe you're referencing Bisqwit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bIcbnDXSRg

Re: Ask HN: People who completed a bootcamp 3+ years ago: what are you doing now?

#309

what are your thoughts on all-women coding bootcamps (ie hackbright in sf and grace hopper in nyc)?

Here in Peru we have a famous one, "Laboratoria". I think they were featured by Y-combinator once. They are able to give young, financially-troubled women an education that usually lands them a good job afterwards. So it seems it's a success. Disclaimer: My friends work there, so i'm a bit biased...

LABORATORIA LOOKS AMAZING! SO proud to be a Peruvian web dev (in SF) and to see that happening in Latin American :D

Re: Ask HN: People who completed a bootcamp 3+ years ago: what are you doing now?

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People who completed a bootcamp 3+ years ago: what are you doing now?

I completed a Certificate in GIS at UC-Riverside's GIS Summer School, an 8 week bootcamp style program. IIRC, this was in 2002.

I currently do freelance writing and run a bunch of blogs. I have never had a job in GIS. I am currently homeless. On the upside, this month is the last payment on my student loan for the course.

I wasn't going to reply. I figure this isn't really the kind of thing you want to hear and trying to convey a meaningful reply would tend to run long and would also run the risk of the usual accusations that I am trying to make a spectacle of myself for attempting to participate in conversation.

But I saw some back and forth in the comments dissing the idea that Starbuck's baristas would post here. Yeah, I wish I was as successful as a Starbuck's barista. That would be a step up. Yet, when taken at face value, I absolutely fit the question as asked. I did complete a tech bootcamp 3+ years ago (not a programming one, but a tech one). Also: My loser self absolutely reads HN regularly. So there.

So, I am not going to bother to try to give the whole story or whatever. Let's just sum this up with:

Pro tip: Don't be born with a life threatening genetic disorder. Also, there are plenty of people here who are not currently wildly successful and well paid programmers. But some of them will refrain from admitting that in questions like this one for various reasons.

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