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Re: Ask HN: Anyone else planning to head back to Microsoft?

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Post by shortstuffsushi »

PascLeRasc wrote: post #4
lsiunsuex wrote: post #3

When Windows 10 comes out I'll probably pull the trigger and get a Microsoft Surface for testing, but I don't think I'll ever leave OS X for Windows. (to name a few) 1: Recently helped a friend install a new hard drive in a Lenovo Edge 15 only to find out the laptop has problems with Crucial SSDs (it brought back to many driver / hardware compatibility issues from my past jobs) 2: Features like Dashboard, Expose, Not…

Regarding #6, what is different between OS X and Windows versions of Sublime?

I think you mean #5, and while I've had good (limited) experience with Sublime, but one of my other favorite tools (SourceTree) is absolutely horrendous on Windows. Just a single data point.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone else planning to head back to Microsoft?

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Post by robtani »

I've already been on the ASP.NET MVC stack for almost 2 years now and haven't looked back!! The tooling is just EXCELLENT!!! and honestly having used so many different languages, C# is hands down the best I've used. It just feels like they cherry picked the best features of all languages and packed it into C#. And Win8.1 (defaulted to desktop mode) on my new ThinkPad X1 Carbon is pretty damn good too!

Re: Ask HN: Anyone else planning to head back to Microsoft?

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Post by [deleted] »

kaolinite wrote: post #19
PascLeRasc wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Regarding #6, what is different between OS X and Windows versions of Sublime?

I think (no proof, but I seem to remember) that there are a number of plugins that are only available for Linux / OS X. Also, I think that point was less about Sublime and more about the other development tools that are Mac only.

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Re: Ask HN: Anyone else planning to head back to Microsoft?

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Post by pmontra »

Nope. As long as we keep deploying on Linux there is no point in developing on Windows. I'm perfectly happy to use Ubuntu as my desktop, most people around me use Macs. A VM for testing with IE will be enough and there are web services for that.

With the open sourcing of .NET we're probably going to see .NET applications running on Linux servers too. So Windows clients get less and less valuable. Remember that there is also a reduced version of Visual Studio for OS X and Linux now. Chances are that MS is sacrificing Windows (for developers) to increase the market share of Azure (Linux servers there).

The general public will keep buying whatever they find at the mall.

(Edit: typos)

Re: Ask HN: Anyone else planning to head back to Microsoft?

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Post by shortstuffsushi »

Delmania wrote: post #22

I maintain a 250 Gb partition on my Mac that's dedicated to Windows. While I primarily use it for gaming, I also intend to install both Windows 10 and VS2015 on it. Bootcamp was a key selling point to me for purchasing a Mac when I was in the market for a new desktop.

This is actually a really good point, and perhaps one against OSX. I'm not really a Windows guy, but I can keep a partition with Windows super easily for the things I do need Windows for. I can't do that from Windows to OSX. That's not Windows fault, because Apple prevents you from doing so, but if you're on Windows, you can't (concurrently) run OSX.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone else planning to head back to Microsoft?

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Post by vezzy-fnord »

mbrock wrote: post #28

I'm idly curious about whether Microsoft will ever "pull an OS X". In my imagination, they'd drop their whole legacy OS except for an emulation layer, and port their Windows Store stuff to a new platform. The new platform, as I imagine it, would be based on Linux and focus primarily on web apps and games. One part web-based cross-device UI runtime, one part serious gaming support. The idea of Microsoft embracing Linu…

Said "emulation layer" would basically be Wine. I'm afraid this whole MS-Linux speculation is just nonsensical, far fetched fantasy.

Dropping Windows entirely is certainly plausible, but they'd probably do it in favor of the Midori OS their research lab has been working on based on the managed runtime aspects they've been learning from Singularity.

Of course I know how file systems work, but in the shoes of an everyday computer user, the whole thing is unfriendly and weird.

If you consider this to even be a problem, then switching to Linux will not help with this. At all. It will only exacerbate it.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone else planning to head back to Microsoft?

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Post by petercooper »

Yes. I'm not about to leave Apple entirely but can see myself placing OS X, Linux and Windows on even pedestals in 2016. I went into OS X wholesale in 2004 and didn't look back until now. Windows 10 and the new direction they seem to be taking code-wise (wrt VS, IE/Edge, git & more) is appealing. What's also appealing is the wider range of hardware. I've bought almost everything Apple releases and am starting to feel like they really don't care for pro users or regular buyers, the new MacBook release was such a mess - it's all about being a mass market media company now.

The main thing that still bugs me about Windows though is the hideous text rendering (I know it's switchable with hacks, but hopefully 4K will resolve the default for me).

Re: Ask HN: Anyone else planning to head back to Microsoft?

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Post by KaiserPro »

THe one killer product that microsoft still do is AD.

I'm 100% linux, however if I ever want to do any sort of centralised user database, AD is the key product I'd use.

Unlike most other things, it just works. It's also really simple to integrate with OSX and linux (assuming you bind directly with SSSD, and don't do any silly translation.)

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