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Re: Ask HN: Marriage

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50% of all US marriages end in divorce. I would say it's partly the poor judgment of youth; mine wasn't so good. Maybe it has always been true, but now it is easier to get out. Romance is a pretty poor basis for a marriage. With mutual respect comes love and a more lasting relationship. Consider all the other qualities needed for success. Starting companies is a huge commitment and raising children is an unbelievable…

2/3 of marriages that are the first for both partners end in death.

Re: Ask HN: Marriage

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Lots of good comments here, many of them all true at the same time.

A marriage is a such a big commitment (10 times bigger if there are kids), that if there is something in your life more important than your marriage, it (probably) won't last.

Some people seem to make this kind of thing work, but I think it's quite rare.

My philosophy is that companies come and go (especially startups), but a loving family will last you a lifetime, and have a much bigger impact on your happiness and wellbeing than success and work.

Re: Ask HN: Marriage

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Don't marry if you are a guy. At present, marriage is a contract with no upside for you. You gain nothing from marriage that you can't get from a committed non-marital relationship, and stand to lose a lot.

How many women out there want to raise kids out of wedlock? Probably not many, and the same is probably true of most men. Or are you assuming that men don't want to have families?

Re: Ask HN: Marriage

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post #5

Attracting gold diggers is a problem of success. More likely, you should be more concerned that doing your startup first and neglecting relationships means you will burn through your younger years (and younger looks) and won't be able to leverage them when it comes to finding a mate. Then, if your startup fails... oops, no leverage at all.

Hey, if he wants leverage he could go live and work abroad for a while where a middle class US lifestyle is livin' it up. Also men's pulling power is a lot less dependent on looks than womens'.

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post #3

startup first results in the issue of -- crap, gold diggers This statement is funny. You seem to think you will make money of your first startup :) For most people entering the startup world today... find a girl with a comfy couch that you can sleep on when you're broke. In all seriousness, you need to assess where you really think you want to end up. I got married fairly young. Started a couple of companies and have…

... or just fall in love. (tip: you can't screen for it)

Exactly. You can't write a business plan for love. It happens, or it doesn't.

Re: Ask HN: Marriage

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Well thanks for the laugh, I needed that today.

Folks, finding the person you want to spend the rest of your life with - you know, the person that is going to stick around to wipe your... okay I'll say drool... when you are 80 and have Alzheimers - that is a much more unpredictable proposition than what you chose to do with your professional life. If you are trying to time the former to the latter, you are taking a big risk that the right person won't be around when you decide you are ready for them.

Date. If you are still dating after 1-2 years and like it, move in, or else break up and try again. If you are still living together and like it after 3 years get hitched, or break up and try again. By all means do not be hasty - but please do not overplan this.

Re: Ask HN: Marriage

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Don't marry if you are a guy. At present, marriage is a contract with no upside for you. You gain nothing from marriage that you can't get from a committed non-marital relationship, and stand to lose a lot.

You can gain quite a lot. If you want a partner beside you to learn from and grow closer to, it can be a great thing. If you want children to love and raise and educate, marriage can be awesome. Those are two reasons I look forward to marriage when I meet the right woman.

If those aren't your priorities though, then I would agree, marriage probably isn't a good option for you. If you view marriage as "what you can get" rather than "what you can give/share" then it will not work and will result in unhappiness.

Re: Ask HN: Marriage

#38
I used to believe that you could pick any two of the following three items:

1) A job you like and are good at 2) A body you like and take care of 3) A marriage & family you invest in and enjoy

I've found that you can have all three, but it requires a lot of flexibility, discipline, and willingness to say no to everything else (which is really just a manifestation of being disciplined).

I don't think marriage and a start-up are always mutually exclusive. In some cases they are, either due to the spouse or the start-up (or yourself, possibly), but if you're willing to be disciplined and set boundaries it's definitely possible.

Re: Ask HN: Marriage

#39

Don't marry if you are a guy. At present, marriage is a contract with no upside for you. You gain nothing from marriage that you can't get from a committed non-marital relationship, and stand to lose a lot.

In all seriousness, if you don't want children, what is the purpose of marriage? What little I know about divorces and children suggests that marriage functions as a crude insurance policy for the kids - which seems reasonable. But if you just want to live with somebody, other than perhaps being able to do some small tax optimization and handle stuff like medical decisions if your spouse is unconscious, what's the point?

Re: Ask HN: Marriage

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Don't marry if you are a guy. At present, marriage is a contract with no upside for you. You gain nothing from marriage that you can't get from a committed non-marital relationship, and stand to lose a lot.

Marriage is a way of saying "My intention is to spend the rest of my life with you as my partner." That means something to your partner. If you're not willing to say that, then that means something, too.
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