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Ask HN: Is vibe coding a new mandatory job requirement?
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#32I think AI assisted coding is a new job requirement, and I think the more I do it the more I’m convinced it’s going to wreck productivity. And it’s not because these tools aren’t as good as people say they are, it’s because they’re too good. Everyone talking about vibe coding all your dependencies and the problem is that the people who are good with these tools and do get 50% or greater productivity benefits won’t be…
I'm already seeing people becoming enamored and proud of output quantity over quality. There were always people off focusing on tangents and low value efforts. Now they can drown an entire team or org in low effort(or low valu) slop.
It'll require stronger and more frequent push back to keep under control.
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#33I feel like people genuinely don't understand what vibe coding means.
Just cause you're using an LLM doesn't mean you're "vibe coding".
I regularly use LLMs at work, but I don't "vibe-code", which is where you're just saying garbage to the model and blindly clicking accept on whatever is spit out from it.
I design, think about architecture, write out all of my thoughts, expected example inputs, expected example outputs, etc. I write out pretty extensive prompts that capture all of that, and then request for an improved prompt. I review that improved prompt to make sure it aligns with the requirements I've gathered.
I read the output like I'm doing a deep code review, and if I don't understand some code I make sure to figure it out before moving forward. I make sure that the change set is within the scope of the problem I'm trying to solve.
Excluding the pieces that augment the workflow, this is all the same stuff you would normally do. You're an engineer solving problems and that domain you do it in happens to involve software and computers.
Writing out code has always been a means to an end. The productivity gains if you actually give LLMs a shot and learn to use the tools are real. So yes, pretty soon it's going to become expected from most places that you use the tools. The same way you've been expected to use a specific language, framework, or any other tool that greatly improves productivity.
Re: Ask HN: Is vibe coding a new mandatory job requirement?
#34dead internet theory is really taking grip
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#35I don't think vibe coding is becoming mandatory, but writing software using AI assistance is. I find Salvatore Sanfilippo's distinction between vibe coding and 'automatic programming' useful. [0]
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#36Earlier quoted context omitted.
There's no 100x productivity gain. No company shipped their products 100x faster except their very first versions.
It depends on the task. There are certain tasks which are too tedious, time-consuming, and error-prone to be valuable for humans to perform, and couldn't be automated effectively until LLMs came along. Eric Raymond has cited a shortening of some tasks from weeks to hours. Andreas Kling managed to lift the JS runtime for his browser Ladybird to Rust from C++ in a couple of weeks, some 25,000 lines of code. The product…
Oh for sure, there are _many_ things we defer or value too much for the time they'd have taken otherwise.
But my point is, those are, by definition, lower value. Check back in a big company how much their revenue growth is (which is ultimately the only metric that's hard to game), then the situation changes.
Otherwise, im sure diff per person per day went up 10x. Output in the sense I am talking about is different.
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#37Jesus Christ. Imagine reading these comments even just a year ago. Don’t know/care about coding with AI? You’re unhireable now. Grim.
Assume that the people falling over themselves to issue apocalyptic proclamations in response to such a question are... likely not representative. (And may not even be software engineers.)
But man, I'm sure glad I left FAANG when I did. All this hysterical squawking over AI sounds utterly insufferable. If Claude was forced upon me at my job I would have likely crashed out at some point.
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#38We won’t hire anybody moving forward who doesn’t have hands-on agentic programming experience. We’re in the traditionally slower moving GovTech space. I have to imagine this is now a common expectation in many sectors. Teams where I work can use Claude Code, Codex, Cursor, and Copilot CLI. Internally, it seems like Claude Code and Codex are the more popular tools being used by most software teams. If you’re new to th…
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Re: Ask HN: Is vibe coding a new mandatory job requirement?
#39The framing of "is vibe coding a job requirement" conflates two things: the skill of coding-by-prompting, and the skill of knowing what you need to build.
The second one is genuinely underrated. Knowing your problem well enough to describe a working solution, the inputs, the logic, the outputs, who uses it, is hard to automate. Generating the actual app from that description is increasingly not.
We've been using Lyzr Architect (architect.new) for this; you describe the agentic app you want in plain English, it generates a full-stack React frontend + multi-agent backend and deploys a live URL. The "vibe coding" is more like a product spec conversation than an IDE session. The people who are best at it aren't coders, they're people who understand their problem deeply.
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#40I think recruiters would like to see what candidates will do when get some free time. It is not really a lifestyle. It is a short amount of time. Maybe couple of weekends, before they get some other work or get laid off. E.g., Nobody wants to continue working with someone who create sound effects, movie player, operating system, etc.
> E.g., Nobody wants to continue working with someone who create sound effects, movie player, operating system, etc. What do you mean by this?
This is personal. I wouldnt like to work with someone who is creating sound effects or rap songs etc. Every sound is some piece of pain. Doing html-web stuff is more useful. Internet is a good thing. Noone knows how the internet works still. Sound-movie makes it understanding even more difficult. It is the click sound of browser originally.