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Ask HN: I don't want to code anymore. What else can I do?

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Re: Ask HN: I don't want to code anymore. What else can I do?

#31
Transition into product management, if you have good people skills, you're naturally a consensus-builder, and you're a jack-of-all-trades type that enjoys talking to design, sales, legal, customers, etc.

The traditional routes to PM are from engineering, design, or an MBA -- so you'll be taking one of the classic paths. Basically try to unofficially take on PM-type responsibilities in your current role. And then they either realize you're good at it and make it official, or you interview for an official PM job somewhere else and explain that while it wasn't your official title, it's what you were effectively doing.

Re: Ask HN: I don't want to code anymore. What else can I do?

#32
Become a manager. Talk to your manager, most decently sized organizations have clear paths. I've been offered coursework to prep for the transition a number of times now in multiple companies. If you haven't yet, seek it out. You can also possibly take a new IC job at a different company that offers clearer paths / training for the move.

Re: Ask HN: I don't want to code anymore. What else can I do?

#33
I've made four broad transitions in my career over thirty some years. First I was a hands-on coder for about 5 years. Then I transitioned into tech sales for about two years. Then into leadership/management for four years. Then I went to law school and was a lawyer for about a decade. By then I made enough money to retire in a modest way (and I'm very modest in my lifestyle), so I went back to programming without any pressure. But ended up having to manage a team after a couple years because the project I was working on in retirement grew and needed more hands.

I'm hoping to retire again. And then I'll just work on something like a video game where I don't need to hire anyone else (outside of contractors for art).

What I've learned over the years is that you should never chase prestige and the opinion of others. I did that for too long. What you should chase is getting money by the fastest means possible, even if its something with no title or career prospects, if you can buy your freedom from the wage wheel. If you can jump off the wage wheel then you can do your own projects with freedom. And freedom to set my own calendar is the only thing that matters to me anymore.

Re: Ask HN: I don't want to code anymore. What else can I do?

#34
What is often hidden in these kinds of posts is a relationship with money that's not fully understood. There's thousands upon thousands of different jobs out there, but your post implies that there's none outside of tech. I'm assuming this is because of the lifestyle it afforded you which you are used to, addiction to cash flow, dependents to support, or perhaps an identity fused with high earnings.

Do a thorough think of how much money you really need. And convince yourself that a dollar more isn't worth any amount of extra effort.

For most people it took a 3-5 years in school or lower level jobs to get good enough to crack into the fruits a high earning software engineering career. If you were young when this happened, you didn't even notice those years go by. Now you're older, but the same rules apply. They just feel different and usually unmotivating. You may need to spend a few years at the bottom again to make some progress down a different skill tree.

When you're winning for so long, it's hard to imagine eating shit for years just to make bread again elsewhere. Harness some excitement around that and commit fully, or realize that you have a pretty great life and find a way to stay cozy in tech (like divorcing your identity from your job).

edit: also if you've only been in big tech, then get out. it's so much more fun elsewhere.

Re: Ask HN: I don't want to code anymore. What else can I do?

#37
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Try teaching and lecturing position. You'll do minimum coding unless you want to code for fun and try new ideas. If you have research funding you can become the project lead but the pressure is much less than industry since only prototyping demo not shipping. The academic institutions will really appreciate your experiences and students as well. I wish all the best for whatever you decided to do.

Teaching tends to be low pay/high effort. K12 education is about classroom management first and subject matter second. You will need specialized education to teach public school. Post-secondary is badly broken with the majority of open positions being non-tenure track and/or adjunct. You end up getting no benefits and low pay and have to teach at multiple schools to cobble together a sub–middle class income. You will…

This is such a bummer because teaching is both critical to a functioning society and enjoyable to do.

I constantly fantasize about teaching but stop quickly after reality hits.

Re: Ask HN: I don't want to code anymore. What else can I do?

#38
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm taking a 9 month sabbatical next year so I can learn to enjoy coding again. It's not coding that bugs me, it's all the BS you have to deal with modern management practices that makes it unbearable. I did management a few times and didn't like it. Keep in mind that no matter what you do, if you're in a corporate environment, that's still going to be a problem.

I presume that you are familiar with it already, but in the off chance that you are not. Check out the Recurse Center

Second this, I know several close friends who have done the Recurse center and they say it's a phenomenal experience, one of the best things they've ever done. Generally speaking the job placement afterwards is also not all that bad if you decide to go back into the workforce.

Re: Ask HN: I don't want to code anymore. What else can I do?

#39
You're living in the perfect time then! With tools like Cursor AI, I find myself writing less and less code to achieve a product outcome.

First question will be what do you enjoy and how can you do more of that? Or enjoyment aside, what is it you would like to achieve.

Difficult, I know.

Re: Ask HN: I don't want to code anymore. What else can I do?

#40

If you're decent with documentation, then there's a whole field out their for documenting and technical writing * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technical_writing

This feels dangerously close to being almost totally automatable, unfortunately
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