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Ask HN: In 2024 what's the best way to manage contacts?

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Re: Ask HN: In 2024 what's the best way to manage contacts?

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I have a master sqlite file with an arbitrary schema that is constantly evolving. I go hard with the constraints and primary keys - so hard, in fact, it's nigh-impossible to add a new contact without cascading changes. I'm always eager to keep my contacts, so this has kept my pretty sharp with sqlite.

I can't tell if you're joking or not, but I sympathize regardless.

I guess left out the bit where I keep a bunch of text files of contacts to add in the same directory, to add when I have access to a keyboard :)

A contact is just a bunch of fields and context. The context matters the most, as long as you have a single real way to get in touch. So as long as you have a `notees` column, permissions to `readfile`, and a shell you're golden.

Re: Ask HN: In 2024 what's the best way to manage contacts?

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I can not speak for others or the consensus but since the 90's I have always just used a plain text file with simple delimiters in a format that I understand so that I can massage the output format to match whatever needs the information. This has worked great for me and is simple to back up and newer versions make this easy to get a good compression ratio of a single tarball of every version . Multiple files as many…

Seconding a text file. I keep addresses this way, too. So does my father. So did my grandfather. I have their files, as well.

Re: Ask HN: In 2024 what's the best way to manage contacts?

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Word of warning: I tried Marissa Mayer's Sunshine contacts and it nuked my phone's contacts. Luckily I had a backup vcard export from way back I could restore from. Others I've tried: * Clay ( https://clay.earth ) is a great option for "batteries included". Based on what you described, it can pull from Google/Outlook, Linkedin, and messaging apps. Doesn't get all the duplicates but gets close enough, and they offer c…

> They were working on a new version, not sure if it was ever merged into main product.

It’s still in development, v4 is getting only bugfixes, v5 is in beta.

Re: Ask HN: In 2024 what's the best way to manage contacts?

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Word of warning: I tried Marissa Mayer's Sunshine contacts and it nuked my phone's contacts. Luckily I had a backup vcard export from way back I could restore from. Others I've tried: * Clay ( https://clay.earth ) is a great option for "batteries included". Based on what you described, it can pull from Google/Outlook, Linkedin, and messaging apps. Doesn't get all the duplicates but gets close enough, and they offer c…

> They were working on a new version, not sure if it was ever merged into main product. It’s still in development, v4 is getting only bugfixes, v5 is in beta.

This seems to have been the case for quite a while now, with very little news coming out of the team.

Their "OfficeLife" tool banner is still on the main site as well, with an expected release of May 2022.

Development seems to be quite slow overall.

Re: Ask HN: In 2024 what's the best way to manage contacts?

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post #6

Google may be a privacy issue... So I would love to have the possibility to prevent anyone putting my info in their contacts in Google. I personally use a paid E-Mail service (mailbox.org) and a self hosted nextcloud. The APP myphoneexplorer can be used to sync offline.

> Google may be a privacy issue... So I would love to have the possibility to prevent anyone putting my info in their contacts in Google. This can be quite difficult to achieve. The moment your contact information is given to someone using Android, it will be synced up with Google (and known by most Google properties). > I personally use a paid E-Mail service (mailbox.org) May I know how long you’ve been using it and…

I use it for more than two years now and it has been a great experience.

Disclaimer: I use this email only for friends and family, told them not to tell anybody and did not register ANY internet account with it - so no spam, no unwanted emails and no shit.

Re: Ask HN: In 2024 what's the best way to manage contacts?

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post #20

I use Fastmail which has CardDAV syncing, and generally it's worked great. One or twice I've noticed it stops syncing and I have to remove + re-add the sync profile, but generally speaking I've been pretty happy with the results.

I second Fastmail. The interface is very solid, and it syncs very well to my iPhone (I've not had any syncing issues myself).

They also have great (human) support, which I find important when it comes to backbone services like email, calendar, and contacts.

Re: Ask HN: In 2024 what's the best way to manage contacts?

#38

I can not speak for others or the consensus but since the 90's I have always just used a plain text file with simple delimiters in a format that I understand so that I can massage the output format to match whatever needs the information. This has worked great for me and is simple to back up and newer versions make this easy to get a good compression ratio of a single tarball of every version . Multiple files as many…

Seconding a text file. I keep addresses this way, too. So does my father. So did my grandfather. I have their files, as well.

Do you mind if I ask what format you've settled on? Having a system evolve over multiple generations means you must have pruned out all the bad ways to do it.

I've got this vision of a Neal Stephenson story which will never be written about a family in the 22nd century that has kept all their personal contacts in Git for over 100 years ...

Re: Ask HN: In 2024 what's the best way to manage contacts?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> They were working on a new version, not sure if it was ever merged into main product. It’s still in development, v4 is getting only bugfixes, v5 is in beta.

This seems to have been the case for quite a while now, with very little news coming out of the team. Their "OfficeLife" tool banner is still on the main site as well, with an expected release of May 2022 . Development seems to be quite slow overall.

The last beta was 5 months ago. Not fast, but not dead either.
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