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Ask HN: Is anyone working at least 4 hours daily on an Apple Vision Pro?

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Re: Ask HN: Is anyone working at least 4 hours daily on an Apple Vision Pro?

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Post by ChuckMcM »

conradev wrote: post #25
virgildotcodes wrote: post #23

I feel like I would have been the ideal customer for it. I travel a lot and I'm a developer deep in the Apple ecosystem who is constantly wishing he had more screen real estate while bouncing between hotels and Airbnbs every few weeks. I bought it and tried it for two weeks and ended up returning it. It's really cool, but even aside from the issues with 1.0 like not being able to just pull up individual app windows f…

Very much agreed. Here is the pair of Raybans with a USB-C cable sticking out: https://www.viture.com/store?pid=9412104487193 It works with phones, too, which is cool!

I tried a pair of those and returned them because the whole screen flying around was really disorienting.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone working at least 4 hours daily on an Apple Vision Pro?

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Post by dazzaji »

I use the Apple Vision Pro pretty much every workday for at least one to three hours. Sometimes, when I’m deep in coding or other major projects, I’ve been in it for over five or more hours at a stretch. I use it exclusively with my MacBook Pro or iMac as an immersive display, with the Magic Keyboard and Trackpad paired to the computer. This setup is basically perfect. I frequently have some mellow ambient music in the background, which, in combination with the immersive work environment, helps me concentrate like never before for long stretches without getting distracted.

A major improvement happened with the release of beta version 2 of their operating system, which made the keyboard visible even when the immersive environment is fully turned up. This change allowed me to have the best of both worlds. Obviously, I have it plugged into an outlet through the battery or it would never last for such a long time. I’ve tried going back to the Oculus, but there’s no comparison. I love it!

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone working at least 4 hours daily on an Apple Vision Pro?

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Post by beeflet »

miki123211 wrote: post #28
rgarrett88 wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm of the opinion that Apple will never natively allow unmanaged code outside macOS due to app store revenue. I mean if the AVP fails it would be a huge write down but if it wins and allows people to circumvent the Apple tax that's still a fail for the company.

You could still do enforcement through legal rather than technical means, though. Disallow installing apps from outside the App Store, provide no system UI to do so. Prohibit apps from being app stores themselves or running code that didn't pass app review, with exceptions for dev tools etc. Make apps able to escape the sandbox, at least in some ways. Even if an app somehow sneaks past app review and gives users unfe…

that still sounds like technical means

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone working at least 4 hours daily on an Apple Vision Pro?

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Post by brookst »

amelius wrote: post #24
viccis wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>It is heavy but I don’t mind it. Consider trying a counter weight. Hunting supply stores sell them for nightvision goggles, and when I tried one on my friend's Valve Index it was shocking how much better it felt.

Sounds like Apple's product designers failed here.

Nah, it was the right call. Advertising it at nearly 2x the weight so X% of people find it more comfortable is a bad trade off.

I use mine all the time and don’t notice the weight. Perhaps because I use various types of helmets frequently. It is far far far less noticeable than a motorcycle helmet, and far less noticeable than a good full face bike helmet.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone working at least 4 hours daily on an Apple Vision Pro?

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Post by virgildotcodes »

conradev wrote: post #25
virgildotcodes wrote: post #23

I feel like I would have been the ideal customer for it. I travel a lot and I'm a developer deep in the Apple ecosystem who is constantly wishing he had more screen real estate while bouncing between hotels and Airbnbs every few weeks. I bought it and tried it for two weeks and ended up returning it. It's really cool, but even aside from the issues with 1.0 like not being able to just pull up individual app windows f…

Very much agreed. Here is the pair of Raybans with a USB-C cable sticking out: https://www.viture.com/store?pid=9412104487193 It works with phones, too, which is cool!

The product may be awesome but the website seems to be designed like a dropshipping site.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone working at least 4 hours daily on an Apple Vision Pro?

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Post by fy20 »

miki123211 wrote: post #28
rgarrett88 wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm of the opinion that Apple will never natively allow unmanaged code outside macOS due to app store revenue. I mean if the AVP fails it would be a huge write down but if it wins and allows people to circumvent the Apple tax that's still a fail for the company.

You could still do enforcement through legal rather than technical means, though. Disallow installing apps from outside the App Store, provide no system UI to do so. Prohibit apps from being app stores themselves or running code that didn't pass app review, with exceptions for dev tools etc. Make apps able to escape the sandbox, at least in some ways. Even if an app somehow sneaks past app review and gives users unfe…

It's worth mentioning none of these concerns affected Android / Google Play, even though it's fairly easy to sideload and even install custom app stores there.

The only phones that come with alternative stores are from Chinese manufacturers, which isn't going to be an issue for Apple as the operating system isn't open source.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone working at least 4 hours daily on an Apple Vision Pro?

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Post by shuoli84 »

I am a developer and coding in vision pro for around 2 months. It is heavy, without third-party accessories, it is unbearable. But with 3d printed gadgets and band, the weight problem is solved 80%. I code in mac virtual desktop, enlarge it and push it as far as possible. The text is clear enough in most of time. But the resolution is still low, i hope the ultra wide virtual desktop feature can solve the problem. Using two keyboards (one built in, one external) to mimic split keyboard, so i can stay in a comfortable pose and type. Installed a thirdparty extension to make modifier key works cross keyboards. Normally 1-3 hours per day.

I do like work in VP, it feels more isolated and easier to focus. There are some side effects, e.g, less water drinking, tend to sitting for longer time etc.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone working at least 4 hours daily on an Apple Vision Pro?

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Post by jemmyw »

karlgkk wrote: post #11

Yes, I do. It’s an amazing monitor and combination iPad. It’s very different than what is easy to describe - partially because it defies convention in so many ways - but I use it with my Mac and then will have mail and chat and music floating on the sides. Btw I said iPad. Apple says it’s a computer. Falls short in some key ways, but not unfixable It is heavy but I don’t mind it. I can see how that might be a deal br…

> Btw protip, tea tastes fine through a metal straw

Sounds burny

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone working at least 4 hours daily on an Apple Vision Pro?

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Post by meiraleal »

virgildotcodes wrote: post #23

I feel like I would have been the ideal customer for it. I travel a lot and I'm a developer deep in the Apple ecosystem who is constantly wishing he had more screen real estate while bouncing between hotels and Airbnbs every few weeks. I bought it and tried it for two weeks and ended up returning it. It's really cool, but even aside from the issues with 1.0 like not being able to just pull up individual app windows f…

I'm waiting for the Freeza Scouter model (Dragon ball Z). One full imersed eye and ear experience. That's the perfect ergonomics.

Re: Ask HN: Is anyone working at least 4 hours daily on an Apple Vision Pro?

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Post by underlogic »

virgildotcodes wrote: post #23

I feel like I would have been the ideal customer for it. I travel a lot and I'm a developer deep in the Apple ecosystem who is constantly wishing he had more screen real estate while bouncing between hotels and Airbnbs every few weeks. I bought it and tried it for two weeks and ended up returning it. It's really cool, but even aside from the issues with 1.0 like not being able to just pull up individual app windows f…

What's up with Raybans? They make the cheapest looking vanilla generic glasses I've ever seen, put a tacky logo on the lens and sell for a fortune. Why does anyone buy them?
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