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Re: Ask HN: Is there a list of grey-hair-friendly IT companies?

#31
Actually the Venn diagram of remote jobs and not being bothered by one's age pretty much overlaps.

Remote work has a way of prioritizing professionalism and solid communication over in person social signaling which is likely to help be anti-ageist.

So the list you posted:

https://github.com/remoteintech/remote-jobs

Should be a good place to start

Re: Ask HN: Is there a list of grey-hair-friendly IT companies?

#32

I don't know if this is a startup or valley or techbro thing but in my industry there is no ageism that I can detect. In aerospace they seem to prefer people who know where the bodies are buried, know how to bury bodies, have buried a few bodies themselves, and can instruct others on body burying.

I've worked at a mix of companies, corporate and startup, and I can't say that I've seen an instance of it.

The closest thing I've seen is that people who have X number of years of experience doing the same thing over and over again don't get opportunities that people with the same number of years doing different things do, unless there's a position that needs X exclusively.

Re: Ask HN: Is there a list of grey-hair-friendly IT companies?

#33

Avalara didn't seem to be overtly ageist. Plenty of kids in their 30s. Smattering of tech workers in their 50s. They seem to be off-shoring most of their tech work though.

> Plenty of kids in their 30s. Did I miss the memo on who is considered a kid these days?

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Re: Ask HN: Is there a list of grey-hair-friendly IT companies?

#35

You want old finance companies. In fact any company older that 30 probably won't care. I'm not a grey hair yet, but I actively hate startups. We aren't changing the world, we're helping cat photos load 3 milliseconds faster...

> we're helping cat photos load 3 milliseconds faster...

No. You don't load cat pictures faster by surrounding it with spyware and choose the cat pic with data from said spyware.

Re: Ask HN: Is there a list of grey-hair-friendly IT companies?

#36
post #12

As a proxy for this consider companies that have better benefits in areas that'd favor middle age / older populations. Example: Better maternity / paternity benefits: https://www.levels.fyi/benefits/Maternity-Leave/ Sabbatical programs often kick in after a certain number of years. A more structured program could indicate being more receptive to higher tenure / older populations: https://www.levels.fyi/benefits/Sabba…

Good thinking about proxies.

But I don't put any stock in (non-professor) sabbatical programs, specifically, anymore, at least not the month-ish kind.

It's easy for a company to advertise sabbaticals, whether they mean it or not (e.g., no cost if you layoff or have a hostile work environment in the first 5 years), and there's also odd incentives, as well as perceptions.

For one example, you can imagine a stereotypical coked-up CEO saying, "If someone is still here in 5 years, they must be complacent, not top players. Sabbatical means they document their duties, and we send them home for 4 weeks, to test whether the docs are enough. It's time to check the freshness date, bro."

And on the employee side, you can imagine people approaching 5-6 years holding out a little longer for that bonus/vacation, but seeing no real refresh of incentive after (unlike RSUs). I've seen industry sabbaticals like this used for job-hunting, and the occasion almost looks like a sign that's time.

(With professors, OTOH, it's different: it might be a year, and a chance to refresh your research, break into a new area, write a book, be a visiting researcher, etc. Which potentially has upside for the university. And the real commitment signal by the employer is tenure.)

Re: Ask HN: Is there a list of grey-hair-friendly IT companies?

#37
post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I actively hate startups Have you asked yourself why you hang out on this website given how you feel about startups? Also, is it really fair to apply such a strong statement to all startups? Look at your screen and the browser you're using, the user interface concepts, the computer itself. Where do you think those came from?

>Have you asked yourself why you hang out on this website given how you feel about startups? Maybe they just like technology.

Is that ok though? Some would say "that's not what hn is for." I've read that a lot. Usually the follow up is something about folks being intellectually curious, not just people who "like technology." I think this comes up a lot and isn't so clear cut as many claim it to be.

Re: Ask HN: Is there a list of grey-hair-friendly IT companies?

#38

You want old finance companies. In fact any company older that 30 probably won't care. I'm not a grey hair yet, but I actively hate startups. We aren't changing the world, we're helping cat photos load 3 milliseconds faster...

> we're helping cat photos load 3 milliseconds faster... No. You don't load cat pictures faster by surrounding it with spyware and choose the cat pic with data from said spyware.

The spyware is the revenue generator, but that’s limited by third parties, so we make the cat photos load faster to keep our internal metrics up and please stakeholders.

Re: Ask HN: Is there a list of grey-hair-friendly IT companies?

#39
post #12

As a proxy for this consider companies that have better benefits in areas that'd favor middle age / older populations. Example: Better maternity / paternity benefits: https://www.levels.fyi/benefits/Maternity-Leave/ Sabbatical programs often kick in after a certain number of years. A more structured program could indicate being more receptive to higher tenure / older populations: https://www.levels.fyi/benefits/Sabba…

Could you elaborate on why you’d consider new parent benefits to be a middle age and older perk? I would assume most new parents are in their 20s and 30s, making it most beneficial for new grads and folks not yet “grey haired”, so to speak. Anecdotally, I’m just past forty, and new parent benefits are no longer directly relevant to me.
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