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Re: Ask HN: How are you finding Gemini Ultra?

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Post by stranded22 »

sebzim4500 wrote: post #5
cl42 wrote: post #2

I subscribe to both ChatGPT and Gemini Ultra. Some interesting features/experiences with Gemini... 1. I asked it to do an image search and it responded with in-line images throughout its response. This was a nice "wow" moment and very neat. 2. Its drawing/illustration style is different than DALL-E, so I use both. 3. Quality of general text responses is comparable, though I prefer ChatGPT. I imagine you can probably…

How do you get Gemini Ultra to generate images? It just tells me that it can't do that yet.

I live in the UK and have the same problem - it doesn’t work here.

Re: Ask HN: How are you finding Gemini Ultra?

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Post by leumon »

For writing text (emails, etc.) and asking basic questions gemini is superior to gpt-4 in my opinion. But when it comes to logic, programming and resoning, gpt4 is better in my opinion. It rarely makes syntax or logical errors, and the jupyter notebook that chatgpt has access to is a big plus for me. It can use it to solve math questions with sympy, use matplotlib and I can ask it to crop a video file for me. Gemini makes a lot of basic mistakes and the code examples are very minimalistic.

Re: Ask HN: How are you finding Gemini Ultra?

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Post by Me1000 »

One thing I've found Gemini Advanced (Ultra) is actually good at is sustaining a conversation to work towards a goal that requires some back and forth. I've been calling it "putting it in collaboration mode", which isn't super accurate since it's not technically a "mode" but whatever. But in my experience ChatGPT (and a lot of instruction tuned LLMs) tend to try to get to the end of the conversation as quickly as possible. (To the point where GPT4 will regularly just end the "and if that doesn't work, go read the documentation" ... which is very frustrating.)

Gemini on the other hand will ask several follow-up questions and behaves more like a conversation you might have with a coworker on a pair-programming topic. It's kind of changed the way I think about the utility of LLMs.

Re: Ask HN: How are you finding Gemini Ultra?

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Post by hackerlight »

nodesocket wrote: post #11

There are posts going around X that Gemini image generation is very biased toward minority preferences even when factual data and real-life statistics don't support the outputs. For example, can somebody ask Gemini to generate a picture of a typical Swedish women?

They're trying to remove the bias present in the training data. The data on the internet vastly over-represents content from wealthy countries who were connected to the internet earlier, and the AI will learn this biased distribution to the point where if you ask it to generate a picture of a "person", that person may be White 100% of the time. Attempts by Google to instead model the true underlying population distribution is probably done in a very hacky way, such as putting guidelines in the system prompt, which then leads to outcomes (which are cherry-picked and put on social media as culture war outrage bait) like what you're talking about where a "Swedish woman" occasionally doesn't show up as White.

Re: Ask HN: How are you finding Gemini Ultra?

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Post by ZeroCool2u »

lacoolj wrote: post #26
ZeroCool2u wrote: post #6

I'm a Google Fi subscriber, so I still can't switch to the Google One plan with access to it. Incredibly frustrating.

Are they related? I have both Fi and One, never saw anything saying they had something to do with each other

We have the Unlimited Plus plan and that comes with Google One, so it seems there's some accounting logic they haven't figured out how to reconcile.

Re: Ask HN: How are you finding Gemini Ultra?

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Post by bugglebeetle »

minihat wrote: post #13

For things I would formerly use a web browser to look up, Gemini is often a lot better than gpt-4. The more obscure the query, the better Gemini does compared to gpt-4. But gpt-4 is still best for ML Python coding. Gemini hallucinates non-existent libraries and often adds unnecessary junk to its code. For example, Gemini often defines spurious variables and then never uses them.

Thanks for answering the one question tells me whether I need to try Gemini!

Re: Ask HN: How are you finding Gemini Ultra?

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Post by kelvie »

epistasis wrote: post #22

For those that want to give it a shot, there's a two month free trial here: https://gemini.google.com/advanced It was not so easy to even find out how to buy Gemini Ultra, apparently it's called "Gemini Advanced," or maybe it's called "Google One AI Premium Plan." Searching for "Gemini Ultra" doesn't give you a link to any this on any of the top page of hits on a Google Web Search, and you have to dig deep in announc…

I think if you already are paying for google drive / gmail / google photos storage I'll find out next billing cycle, but it'd be pretty misleading otherwise, and they'd obviously be incentivized to hook you in with the dark pattern of "auto renewing free trial subscription"
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