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Ask HN: 36 months of unemployment and depression. How to go back?

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Re: Ask HN: 36 months of unemployment and depression. How to go back?

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I was thinking the other day about how people recommend Vitamin D for depression. It does make sense.

It seems a lot harder to get depression when people used to be outside all day in the sun. I always feel happier and brighter when I'm in the sun.

Re: Ask HN: 36 months of unemployment and depression. How to go back?

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> Also try lifting weights. 100% on this. Exercising, especially lifting weights, feels like you're improving yourself after every single session. You will literally see the difference in the mirror. It's something that you can control. You can't always control how lucky or successful you are in your career. But you can always control your exercising. Once you improve the way you look, you start to feel better and pe…

On the same note, control what you can control can also mean to change your environment and lifestyle if that is what makes you depressive. Sports, even more weight lifting, have not helped me in any way. If anything it established a wrong body image of myself. Something I never wanted to be or look like. Self-Confidence based on looks sounds fragil and very risky to me. It's no magic cure and if you sell it as one p…

>Sports, even more weight lifting, have not helped me in any way. If anything it established a wrong body image of myself. Something I never wanted to be or look like. Self-Confidence based on looks sounds fragil and very risky to me.

It's done the opposite for me. I used to have lower self-esteem. Once I got into shape and visible muscles through shirts, suddenly everyone is nicer to me. Girls are talking to me more. Men are nicer. No bullying.

I quit weed and started lifting weights at the same time. When combined, these two decisions have done wonders for my mental health.

Re: Ask HN: 36 months of unemployment and depression. How to go back?

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Also try lifting weights. Done carefully to avoid injury, it can produce fairly quick body fitness changes that usually help during job interviews. Having usually done long distance rowing, I was surprised how fast my muscles tightened up and grew with one lifting session a week.

How did these muscles help in tech job interviews?

Self confidence

Re: Ask HN: 36 months of unemployment and depression. How to go back?

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Effects on your body or mental health? As far as I know nobody crowned sports as a magic cure for mental well-being yet.

Exercise has some huge physiological and psychological benefits [0]. It won’t immediately cure serious mental illnesses, but it definitely doesn’t hurt. Anecdotally, my mental health is much better with a good diet and some physical exercise every week. [0] https://cursosextensao.usp.br/pluginfile.php/834363/mod_reso...

Anecdotally mine is as well. But for me it's about enough exercise and not about making a new hobbie out of it.

I guess most people don't have enough healthy exercise, getting to the point of enough is definitely a health benefit without question.

But people here recommend going full on muscle building what seems like a shift of their issues more than anything.

Re: Ask HN: 36 months of unemployment and depression. How to go back?

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On the same note, control what you can control can also mean to change your environment and lifestyle if that is what makes you depressive. Sports, even more weight lifting, have not helped me in any way. If anything it established a wrong body image of myself. Something I never wanted to be or look like. Self-Confidence based on looks sounds fragil and very risky to me. It's no magic cure and if you sell it as one p…

>Sports, even more weight lifting, have not helped me in any way. If anything it established a wrong body image of myself. Something I never wanted to be or look like. Self-Confidence based on looks sounds fragil and very risky to me. It's done the opposite for me. I used to have lower self-esteem. Once I got into shape and visible muscles through shirts, suddenly everyone is nicer to me. Girls are talking to me more…

Glad to hear it worked for you. I totally get where you are coming from, but people are not nicer because you look better but because you approach them differently with your additional self esteem.

You definitely wouldn't need muscles for that. Getting to love yourself has the very same effect.

Re: Ask HN: 36 months of unemployment and depression. How to go back?

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I spent my first few months as a regular resident of Germany (after years as a US Army IT contractor) completely failing to get past initial interviews, and fell into what my husband and I now believe was some sort of depression. I can't really remember those months.

I got out of my funk by giving up on finding a "real" IT job and instead taking a part time job teaching English that paid less than anything I'd done since the middle of college.

But having to dress up everyday, go somewhere, and talk to a lot of people made me stop projecting a cloud of gloom (apparently), and resulted in a good temp job that turned into my current, permanent employment contract.

You most likely don't have the exact same option, but don't discount the benefit of having something that you have to get dressed and leave the house for on a regular basis, even if it doesn't pay well or at all.

Re: Ask HN: 36 months of unemployment and depression. How to go back?

#38

As someone who hires people, hence the throwaway: * Just apply to everything, you'll get used to it. Don't be picky, don't focus on backend, look for testing, QA, etc. * Polish your CV. Do NOT try to explain anything regarding the last 3 years in your CV. The CV is just there to get you into interviews. Just state the pure job facts as they are. * The most important thing is to get you into a job. ANY job. Be flexibl…

Good advice in general, but...

> Don't be afraid to lie, your personal issues are nobody's business. Just say you traveled the world. Learn to lie convincingly, details matter!

Agree, don't talk about personal issues, but, don't lie! Then you have to keep up the facade and it's exhausting. If you want to be honest, perhaps smile and say the last three years are behind you...

Re: Ask HN: 36 months of unemployment and depression. How to go back?

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>Sports, even more weight lifting, have not helped me in any way. If anything it established a wrong body image of myself. Something I never wanted to be or look like. Self-Confidence based on looks sounds fragil and very risky to me. It's done the opposite for me. I used to have lower self-esteem. Once I got into shape and visible muscles through shirts, suddenly everyone is nicer to me. Girls are talking to me more…

Glad to hear it worked for you. I totally get where you are coming from, but people are not nicer because you look better but because you approach them differently with your additional self esteem. You definitely wouldn't need muscles for that. Getting to love yourself has the very same effect.

You'd be surprised. Girls definitely notice the muscles. :)

Re: Ask HN: 36 months of unemployment and depression. How to go back?

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As someone who hires people, hence the throwaway: * Just apply to everything, you'll get used to it. Don't be picky, don't focus on backend, look for testing, QA, etc. * Polish your CV. Do NOT try to explain anything regarding the last 3 years in your CV. The CV is just there to get you into interviews. Just state the pure job facts as they are. * The most important thing is to get you into a job. ANY job. Be flexibl…

Good advice in general, but... > Don't be afraid to lie, your personal issues are nobody's business. Just say you traveled the world. Learn to lie convincingly, details matter! Agree, don't talk about personal issues, but, don't lie! Then you have to keep up the facade and it's exhausting. If you want to be honest, perhaps smile and say the last three years are behind you...

> "smile and say the last three years are behind you"

No offense, but that would be a terrible answer. IF you really, really want to be honest, say you had medical issues, but that it is all fine now. No interviewer will dig deeper here, as it would be plain illegal to do so. Still, I think there are better answers than that. I'm sure the OP did SOMETHING in the last three years. Maybe you traveled abroad a bit, read a few books, so just say you took some time to grow as a person, whatever. It's not really lying if there is some truth in it.

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