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Re: Ask HN: Good books on philosophy of engineering?

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post #19

Tao Te Ching, seriously There is a lot of emphasis on simplicity and that things are the best when they work seamlessly. Chapter 17, from the translation by Derek Lin, which I wholeheartedly recommend: The highest rulers, people do not know they have them The next level, people love them and praise them The next level, people fear them The next level, people despise them

Another great translation is by Witter Bynner - the book is titled The Way of Life rather than Tao Te Ching.

Re: Ask HN: Good books on philosophy of engineering?

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post #10

I've just purchased Richard Hamming's "The Art of Doing Science and Engineering" but haven't read it all yet, it looks pretty great.

It is a great book, and it includes an amazing essay by him titled You and Your Research [0][1] - which explains why it is important to "always be learning".

0 - https://www.cs.virginia.edu/~robins/YouAndYourResearch.html

1 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3msMuwqp-o (lecture version)

Re: Ask HN: Good books on philosophy of engineering?

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A city is not a tree. It is more about the limits of systems thinking. Must read for Smart-City IoT but applies to anything where you might think Tech is an easy fix to some social problem: http://worrydream.com/refs/Alexander%20-%20A%20City%20Is%20N...

Yes! Christopher Alexander is a must-read for engineers. Notes on the Synthesis of Form is also very excellent.

Re: Ask HN: Good books on philosophy of engineering?

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post #9

Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance

I've never understood what engineers find in this book. It looks like a shallow kitchen philosophy of a guy next door to me. What you think is so good about this book for engineers, in a nutshell?

Did you read the whole book yourself or just skim it? (asking sincerely)

Re: Ask HN: Good books on philosophy of engineering?

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post #19

Tao Te Ching, seriously There is a lot of emphasis on simplicity and that things are the best when they work seamlessly. Chapter 17, from the translation by Derek Lin, which I wholeheartedly recommend: The highest rulers, people do not know they have them The next level, people love them and praise them The next level, people fear them The next level, people despise them

Discussed most recently/productively here at https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37686713 I think.

Re: Ask HN: Good books on philosophy of engineering?

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Systemantics, AKA "The Systems Bible: The Beginner's Guide to Systems Large and Small" by John Gall.

It is offered from the perspective of how not to design systems, based on system engineering failures. The primary precept of the treatise is that large complex systems are extremely difficult to design correctly despite best intentions, so care must be taken to design smaller, less-complex systems and to do so with incremental functionality based on close and continual touch with user needs and measures of effectiveness.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Systemantics

Re: Ask HN: Good books on philosophy of engineering?

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post #19

Tao Te Ching, seriously There is a lot of emphasis on simplicity and that things are the best when they work seamlessly. Chapter 17, from the translation by Derek Lin, which I wholeheartedly recommend: The highest rulers, people do not know they have them The next level, people love them and praise them The next level, people fear them The next level, people despise them

For Eastern Influence.

I think AI Engineers would be interested in a more Zen take, examining 'conceptual mind', 'subjective experience'.

""The Zen Teaching of Huang Po: On the Transmission of Mind""

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/276779.The_Zen_Teaching_...

Re: Ask HN: Good books on philosophy of engineering?

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post #19

Tao Te Ching, seriously There is a lot of emphasis on simplicity and that things are the best when they work seamlessly. Chapter 17, from the translation by Derek Lin, which I wholeheartedly recommend: The highest rulers, people do not know they have them The next level, people love them and praise them The next level, people fear them The next level, people despise them

There are several ways to approach the Tao Te Ching, including the mystical, but I think that there's a great book that explains the underlying approach the Chinese have, called, Treatise on Efficacy.

Essentially, in Chinese philosophy, any given situation has a propensity (water tends to run downhill). It is therefore more effective to work with that propensity, than it is to work heroically against that propensity. This is very much a layer in what the Tao Te Ching talks about.

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