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Re: Ask HN: Questions for two 40 year IBM Mainframe repair and programmers

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Would love to know whether security was a concern at all on those systems (eg industrial espionage, internal program meddling for the purpose of tricking auditors, etc). And if yes, then what are some interesting stories about investigating and resolving security issues. Thanks for doing this!

Hacking was not a problem in the early days of computing as there was no internet and computers talked to each other over dedicated telephone lines. - Grandfather

Re: Ask HN: Questions for two 40 year IBM Mainframe repair and programmers

#32

I worked as a field engineer on Honeywell mainframes in the late 1970s and later moved into programming so I'm always keen on hearing about the good old days when computers looked impressive. I'd be interested in hearing about their most challenging debugging problems. I'd also like to hear about how your grandfather serviced core memories back in the day. Honeywell core memories had spare bits built in which made is…

I do not remember any transistors being inside the core house but sometimes the welds inside the house would break loose and if you could find the broken weld you could resolder it. IBM core units did not have spare positions. Sometime the entire core house would have to be replaced. - Grandfather

Re: Ask HN: Questions for two 40 year IBM Mainframe repair and programmers

#33

The current set of developers are often tempted to start again - to start a new software codebase which will surely fix all mistakes of the old. Was this a temptation in the days of big iron?

I was a hardware tech and we installed updates or patches to the computer micro code many times without replacing the entire code. I think most programmers preferred to fix the problems rather than start over. grandfather

Re: Ask HN: Questions for two 40 year IBM Mainframe repair and programmers

#34

Did he ever work on the System/3 or System/32 devices? (I am looking for a System/32 but there are very few around!) Also what was his favorite machine and why?

I did not work on the computers you referred to and my favorite computer was the 360 model 40 (2040) because it was very reliable and relatively easy to work on because by then I understood the microcode much better. grandfather

Re: Ask HN: Questions for two 40 year IBM Mainframe repair and programmers

#35

Were there any parallels between the systems they worked on and helped bring into this world and the modern era with "supercomputers" and AI, as far as people being worried about the technology replacing their jobs? Did they have much of a network or reference to lean on when novel problems would come up, or was it more of a "figure out a way to make it work" way of troubleshooting?

I do not remember people being concerned about computers replacing them because in the 60s and 70s computers were creating a lot more jobs than they were replacing and automation had not taken over at that time. IBM had a very good support network all the way to the plant if necessary.

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#36

Given what they’ve seen almost 60 years ago and today - can they extrapolate what will the computing field look like in another 60 years? What tools/techniques/methods from the past do they miss the most? Which of these do they think could/should be adapted to current realities and used to greater effect? What are their top 3 do’s and don’ts from those times?

I have no idea where computing will be in 60 years. The tool I miss most is the oscilloscope. It was great fun and satisfaction to set up the scope and computer and be able to see the display of the electronic signals while you looked for a missing or erroneous signal. You had outsmarted the computer. The top do in my days was if you did not have a good handle on a problem in two hours call for help. grandfather

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#37

As a recently retired IBMer, I would love to know what the think of IBM today vs when they worked there.

I do not know about IBM today but during my time working for the company they were the greatest company to work for if business was good but in bad times for the company their number one priority was the bottom line.

Re: Ask HN: Questions for two 40 year IBM Mainframe repair and programmers

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I'm curious in regards to repairs (and perhaps this is just stupidity on my part): Were spare parts for repairs kept on-site, did they have to be ordered/shipped, or did your grandfather have a, er, service truck with parts, etc?

I was in a resident territory 60 miles from the home office and we stocked a good supply of parts but far from any part you would ever need. My branch office stocked a higher level of parts and would send them to me via taxi if needed. The regional parts center in Atlanta would air freight over night to the Birmingham airport and I would meet the airplane. I had a part removed from a production line machine and sent to me for a repair. Part support was very good. In the 1990s when I was working for TSS we did get vans so we could have some parts with us.

Re: Ask HN: Questions for two 40 year IBM Mainframe repair and programmers

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post #24

Oh! I would like to know what sort of reliability and headaches they had out of different types of memory! Drum, core, film memory etc.

Every form of memory storage I was exposed to worked well except for the delay line storage unit in the controller for 2260 CRTs. IT WAS VERY TEMPERATURE SENSITIVE and required a lot of maintenance. THANKFULLY it was not around very long.

Re: Ask HN: Questions for two 40 year IBM Mainframe repair and programmers

#40

I worked as a field engineer on Honeywell mainframes in the late 1970s and later moved into programming so I'm always keen on hearing about the good old days when computers looked impressive. I'd be interested in hearing about their most challenging debugging problems. I'd also like to hear about how your grandfather serviced core memories back in the day. Honeywell core memories had spare bits built in which made is…

I do not remember any transistors being inside the core house but sometimes the welds inside the house would break loose and if you could find the broken weld you could resolder it. IBM core units did not have spare positions. Sometime the entire core house would have to be replaced. - Grandfather

Thanks. That's interesting. I've only seen the outside of IBM mainframes in the few computer rooms which had both types of machines.
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