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Ask HN: What to Do After Burnout?

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Re: Ask HN: What to Do After Burnout?

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> Getting a different job in a startup or an agency sounds like the last thing I want right now. From what I’ve heard big tech is not all that much different, and a non-tech programming job sounds like it’d be boring/horrible in a different way. Here's the thing. Every job is a job. Even "doing what you love" comes with days when you really don't feel like doing it. There is no perfect job that will contain all the t…

> Taking a less glamorous job to make space in your life for other pursuits is not bad. Even if it's just for little while to reset.

Agree. Quit the startup grind and find a middle-of-the-road position at a big company where you can take it easy, then work the minimum you need to feel OK with yourself. For example, 4-6 honest hours a day; if you're coming from an overwork startup culture, you'll still be out-working most of your peers even at that rate. If it's not done by 4 PM, then tough shit, it'll still be there tomorrow and someone else should've planned the project better. Then find other things to do with your newfound free time.

Re: Ask HN: What to Do After Burnout?

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Maybe talk to your boss about your situation?

that's a fantastic way to get fired immediately.

By a bad manager maybe, a good manager would figure that you're going to be unreliable moving forward and slowly manage you out of their team / key milestones until you eventually quit.

Re: Ask HN: What to Do After Burnout?

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Recover. However you can.

It only gets worse if you don’t take action. If you can, quit and find a distraction unrelated to your career. Sometimes it takes years for people to bounce back, sometimes only months.

You won’t be your full self until you recover.

Re: Ask HN: What to Do After Burnout?

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My honest advice: Get out of the Hacker News hivemind.

The folks on this site act like every programming job is either at a FAANG/MAGMA company, a startup, or not in tech. They are wrong.

If you are willing to look outside the valley (but still in almost any big city or suburb), there are oceans of tech companies that work in like, financial compliance dashboards or healthcare documentation or if you’re OK with it defense contractors. You can make $150-250k easy. Your life will involve waking up, attending a standup on Google Meet, adding an endpoint to a REST API, sending it off to be tested, then around 2 you fix whatever the testers found, send it off again, then clock out once there’s nothing else in your swim lane (possibly before 5).

You won’t get equity, and you won’t have the outlandish salaries people are always talking about on HN, but you’ll also have the freedom to not think about your job outside of work hours. If what you want is to leverage your skills into a comfortable life where you can spend time with your kids, this is the move.

I’ve seen people burn out and try to leave tech for greener pastures, it often doesn’t turn out as well as they expect. In other fields, you’ll be a lot more fungible and you’ll come to realize how much cushion and leverage developers get from being a somewhat scarce resource.

Re: Ask HN: What to Do After Burnout?

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Also, regular hard exercise and/or martial arts training, particularly BJJ, is de riguer for stress management.

When you get into YC one of the first things they tell you is to develop a regular physical health practice because startups are incredibly difficult.

Safely blow the burnout into the weights and your sparring partners.

Re: Ask HN: What to Do After Burnout?

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For the last five years I've worked exclusively with non-profits and companies who are aligned with some sort of social good. Coming from the agency/startup world, things are completely different for me now. Can't get something done at 6pm on a Friday? That's okay no problem we'll look into it Monday. Or Tuesday. Or Wednesday. Or next quarter. It's a completely different way of working, antithetical to the adrenaline…

Sorry but how do things get done at that place? Can’t imagine not getting things done, I mean non profit it’s in the name but whatever cause it’s for surely suffers..

Americans when they discover working a normal 40h week:

Re: Ask HN: What to Do After Burnout?

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IME working at a big tech company post-burnout is much more relaxing than working at a startup. There is definitely opportunity & reward for working hard and getting stuff done, but planning timelines and deadlines are so much longer. And none of the existential dread from “will we run out of runway” or “how do we get to PMF”. Especially if you go in a level or two below your actual tryhard level, you’ll still likely…

IME it's trading one pressure cooker for another.

There's less time pressure but more organizational inertia and sickness blocking doing _any_ meaningful work.

If you're the kind of person that can just punch a clock and not give a shit, fine, but someone used to working in startups is someone used to taking responsibility for things and that's career death in big orgs or asking for further burnout.

Re: Ask HN: What to Do After Burnout?

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IME working at a big tech company post-burnout is much more relaxing than working at a startup. There is definitely opportunity & reward for working hard and getting stuff done, but planning timelines and deadlines are so much longer. And none of the existential dread from “will we run out of runway” or “how do we get to PMF”. Especially if you go in a level or two below your actual tryhard level, you’ll still likely…

IME it's trading one pressure cooker for another. There's less time pressure but more organizational inertia and sickness blocking doing _any_ meaningful work. If you're the kind of person that can just punch a clock and not give a shit, fine, but someone used to working in startups is someone used to taking responsibility for things and that's career death in big orgs or asking for further burnout.

Sure but that just doesnt gel with also getting burned out.
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