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Ask HN: Why are there no 5G USB-C dongles for laptops?

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Re: Ask HN: Why are there no 5G USB-C dongles for laptops?

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> via Bluetooth too Wouldn't recommend, bluetooth has the disadvantage of being very slow.

USB2 speeds are better, but not that much.

USB2 has a cap of 480mbps (includes overhead) while Bluetooth is stuck at several megabits per second (1.7 for Bluetooth 4, should be around double for Bluetooth 5).

WiFi can easily beat USB2 but Bluetooth certainly can't.

Re: Ask HN: Why are there no 5G USB-C dongles for laptops?

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post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> via Bluetooth too Wouldn't recommend, bluetooth has the disadvantage of being very slow.

USB2 speeds are better, but not that much.

USB2 can do 480mbit (connection at least) and has the advantage of working properly even in a noisy wifi area.

Re: Ask HN: Why are there no 5G USB-C dongles for laptops?

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> without drining my phone battery for a hotspot.

I wonder how much power 5G in a moving train needs. The point being that you'd just drain the laptop's battery faster *.

Do you even get 5G in that train or a 4G dongle would be as good?

Must it be usb-c or usb-a plus short adapter will do?

As everyone else said, the convenience of a hotspot plus not having to manage/pay for a separate cell phone subscription outweighs the battery drain for most, so no one gets dongles any more.

Edit: * maybe as fast as powering a cell phone from it...

Re: Ask HN: Why are there no 5G USB-C dongles for laptops?

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> without drining my phone battery for a hotspot I faced a similar problem. I have now invested my money in an external battery instead to charge my phone if necessary. For me, this seemed like a simpler solution (also, I don't have to worry about a second SIM this way). For iPhones, there are now batteries that do not even need cables. https://www.anker.com/products/a1611 https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MJWY3AM/A…

I was disappointed with how little charge the Anker 622 holds. They advertise the 633 to hold 1.3 charges for an iPhone 13. The 622, at half the capacity would only extend battery life by ~60% (not even one charge which is a big bummer)

Interestingly the 633 is priced at $79.99 in the US, and €79.99 in EU. The EU price is therefore equivalent to about $88.30.

On top of that, they currently have a $10 discount voucher in the US. https://www.anker.com/products/a1641?ref=select_your_product...

Whereas the EU does not get any discount currently https://www.anker.com/eu-en/products/a1641?variant=415101967...

So that’s $69.99 for the US vs $88.30 for the EU, for the same product.

Re: Ask HN: Why are there no 5G USB-C dongles for laptops?

#36

With MacBooks it's very seamless to connect to your iPhone's hotspot, it just appears in the WiFi menu. It's definitely more convenient than a dongle, as long as you have your phone with you

The seams start to appear when you phone battery is depleted

Re: Ask HN: Why are there no 5G USB-C dongles for laptops?

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post #19

GSM dongles simply aren't that popular anymore. Wifi access is near-universal, so the average consumer will pretty much never be without internet access - and their phone is a pretty suitable backup hotspot. The people who do need GSM-based internet - like surveyors or door-to-door people - are probably better served by tablets anyways, and definitely don't want to deal with a USB dongle. If they have to, they'll jus…

> and their phone is a pretty suitable backup hotspot. This one. When your phone can almost always act as a hotspot, you don't need a separate one. And for tourists it's much easier to get a 5G/WiFi hotspot at the airport for the duration of the trip. > The people who do need GSM-based internet - like surveyors or door-to-door people - are probably better served by tablets anyways, and definitely don't want to deal w…

I had a toshiva with 4G, back before 5G days, it was really neat.

Re: Ask HN: Why are there no 5G USB-C dongles for laptops?

#38
Acer has 2 options but they start 299.

Alternatively, you can look into mobile 5g modems/routers with battery. They're also in the same price range though plus you have to charge them.

You mentioned Austria so I assume you're in the EU?

Geizhals ist usually you're best bet for product and price discovery.

https://geizhals.eu/?cat=phonmdg&xf=4844_5G~5694_USB&sort=p&...

Re: Ask HN: Why are there no 5G USB-C dongles for laptops?

#39

> without drining my phone battery for a hotspot I faced a similar problem. I have now invested my money in an external battery instead to charge my phone if necessary. For me, this seemed like a simpler solution (also, I don't have to worry about a second SIM this way). For iPhones, there are now batteries that do not even need cables. https://www.anker.com/products/a1611 https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MJWY3AM/A…

I was disappointed with how little charge the Anker 622 holds. They advertise the 633 to hold 1.3 charges for an iPhone 13. The 622, at half the capacity would only extend battery life by ~60% (not even one charge which is a big bummer)

> They advertise the 633 to hold 1.3 charges for an iPhone 13.

I think you have a typo there. The product page for 633 says 1.8 charges for the iPhone 13.

I was confused why 60% extra would seem low for half capacity of 1.3 charges (130%). Dividing 130% by two gives 65%.

But since it’s actually 180%, I agree that 60% extra seems low. Should have been about 90% extra one would think.

Re: Ask HN: Why are there no 5G USB-C dongles for laptops?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was disappointed with how little charge the Anker 622 holds. They advertise the 633 to hold 1.3 charges for an iPhone 13. The 622, at half the capacity would only extend battery life by ~60% (not even one charge which is a big bummer)

Interestingly the 633 is priced at $79.99 in the US, and €79.99 in EU. The EU price is therefore equivalent to about $88.30. On top of that, they currently have a $10 discount voucher in the US. https://www.anker.com/products/a1641?ref=select_your_product... Whereas the EU does not get any discount currently https://www.anker.com/eu-en/products/a1641?variant=415101967... So that’s $69.99 for the US vs $88.30 for the…

The difference is more than explained by VAT.
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