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Ask HN: Are you going to shell out $42 for ChatGPT pro? Is it worth it?

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Re: Ask HN: Are you going to shell out $42 for ChatGPT pro? Is it worth it?

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Post by selfhoster11 »

estevaoam wrote: post #28

Innovation is really a weird thing. If we could show ChatGPT to people 10, 20 years ago I'm certain most people would be amazed by this technology. Today, lots of people heavily criticize its limitations and thinks 40 bucks/mo is too much for this kind of tech. Reminds me about newspapers headlines being skeptical when light bulb started being sold for the first time. 99% people seems to be fundamentally conservative…

I think this is mostly people being (rightly) pissed off that this technology and the kinds of resources required to replicate it are in the hands of 1-3 companies, who try to add “safety” features that hamper it.

DRMed technology is almost worse than not having it - it’s tantalisingly close, but you can’t use it for what you want because a human (not the machine!) said no.

Re: Ask HN: Are you going to shell out $42 for ChatGPT pro? Is it worth it?

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Post by selfhoster11 »

realalandonald wrote: post #3

This too shall pass. This is no different than the time when everyone was crazed about having an Alexa at home because "oh i am too busy to write down my grocery list"

There’s a significant difference between voice assistants. Roughly, in my experience Google is the best, followed by Alexa (less smart), followed by Siri (better at controlling the phone, much less smart). A Google assistant with a custom wake word would be perfect.

Re: Ask HN: Are you going to shell out $42 for ChatGPT pro? Is it worth it?

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Post by cloudking »

efficax wrote: post #27

no way the final price us $42. that’s just filler copy drawn from what the ai computer says in Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy. Going from free to $500/yr is nuts. $10/mo seems more like the right price

Hope you're right and it's just an experiment :) $10 seems reasonable

Re: Ask HN: Are you going to shell out $42 for ChatGPT pro? Is it worth it?

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Post by iliane5 »

jfoster wrote: post #7
iliane5 wrote: post #4

I wish they would make the Pro version less filtered and less apologetic about only being a language model. Even it's a bit annoying, I do understand them trying to limit what the free, public facing model will answer but I'd say it'd be a pretty fair expectation to get more leeway for the Pro version.

Yeah, my first thought about Pro was that even if I pay $42 per month, the results will still be nerfed, and perhaps increasingly so over time. It's possible to view almost every fact or opinion as somehow controversial, and I think they're misguided in trying to prevent things that may generate minor controversies. In fact, it's interesting to see how a LLM might be biased after taking in massive amounts of training…

I think they'll move away from limiting or censoring it once the general public gets more familiar with language models and what they can/can't do. It's a bit of a silly endeavor to try to limit some answers when the whole point of ChatGPT is that there are a million different way you can get it to do what you want or trick it so ignores its prompts or its safety features. Either that or someone will move faster than them and release a 100% unfiltered model.

Re: Ask HN: Are you going to shell out $42 for ChatGPT pro? Is it worth it?

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Post by serjester »

I run a startup and can say that ChatGPT saves me a couple hours a week. The other day I needed to write a function that dissolves a geojson outline (say the outline of a state) into h3 hexagons and split a metric into those hexagons. With a little back and forth ChatGPT wrote me something usable in minutes. This is not remotely trivial and would have taken me an hour even with Copilot.

While high, I've paid far more for a significantly less capable VA in the past. I'd likely pay up to a $100.

Re: Ask HN: Are you going to shell out $42 for ChatGPT pro? Is it worth it?

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Post by estevaoam »

selfhoster11 wrote: post #31
estevaoam wrote: post #28

Innovation is really a weird thing. If we could show ChatGPT to people 10, 20 years ago I'm certain most people would be amazed by this technology. Today, lots of people heavily criticize its limitations and thinks 40 bucks/mo is too much for this kind of tech. Reminds me about newspapers headlines being skeptical when light bulb started being sold for the first time. 99% people seems to be fundamentally conservative…

I think this is mostly people being (rightly) pissed off that this technology and the kinds of resources required to replicate it are in the hands of 1-3 companies, who try to add “safety” features that hamper it. DRMed technology is almost worse than not having it - it’s tantalisingly close, but you can’t use it for what you want because a human (not the machine!) said no.

I agree. I’m also not happy with that. Hopefully we’re getting more open tools like Stable Diffusion.

Re: Ask HN: Are you going to shell out $42 for ChatGPT pro? Is it worth it?

#39

Post by MagicMoonlight »

whywhywhywhy wrote: post #9
iliane5 wrote: post #4

I wish they would make the Pro version less filtered and less apologetic about only being a language model. Even it's a bit annoying, I do understand them trying to limit what the free, public facing model will answer but I'd say it'd be a pretty fair expectation to get more leeway for the Pro version.

It’s laughable when you see it claim it can’t do something then with some rewording you trick it into doing just the thing you asked. If I was at OpenAI I’d be looking at this sort of ideology as what’s gonna be our downfall like it was with Dall-E 2 once a democratized model is released by someone else.

Yeah you can do exploits like write the offensive part of the prompt backwards and then ask it to reverse it before executing it.

The problem is it’s so stupid it doesn’t always know how to reverse things and sometimes just makes up a result.

Re: Ask HN: Are you going to shell out $42 for ChatGPT pro? Is it worth it?

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Post by f0e4c2f7 »

Yes $42 feels quite cheap to me. I pretty much always have a ChatGPT tab open, mostly for coding but also sometimes for searching more broadly or exploring it's capabilities.

It's worth it to me just to have access to a version that doesn't go down as much. I would say I can work about 30% faster on most computer related tasks having it.

It feels like another Google (to me). I'd pay $42/mo for Google if it didn't exist otherwise.

The nice thing too, if Stable Diffusion is any indication we'll have an even better open source version in a year or two.

In either case I just want access to the stuff the automates the largest amount of boring repetitive work.

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