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Re: Ask HN: Discord banned me with no recourse

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Post by spywaregorilla »

ctrlmeta wrote: post #24
zarzavat wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What alternative is there that has: screen sharing, voice calls, all your friends across every community in one DM list, meaning that you can make group chats across communities?

But once the company locks me out, I would neither have screen sharing nor video calls nor the DM list. Isn't it better to just use Matrix which may have less features but those features I can rely on for a long time without the risk of being locked out?

Not enough people get locked out for this to matter to the public opinion

Re: Ask HN: Discord banned me with no recourse

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Post by the_lonely_road »

ctrlmeta wrote: post #24
zarzavat wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What alternative is there that has: screen sharing, voice calls, all your friends across every community in one DM list, meaning that you can make group chats across communities?

But once the company locks me out, I would neither have screen sharing nor video calls nor the DM list. Isn't it better to just use Matrix which may have less features but those features I can rely on for a long time without the risk of being locked out?

Some people refuse to get in the ocean for fear of being killed by a shark. Most people swim, boat, surf, parasail, etc and enjoy that aspect of their life without more than the most casual thought of sharks. Neither group is right but one group has a much more enriched life…assuming they don’t get eaten by a shark of course.

Re: Ask HN: Discord banned me with no recourse

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Post by paulcole »

ctrlmeta wrote: post #24
zarzavat wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What alternative is there that has: screen sharing, voice calls, all your friends across every community in one DM list, meaning that you can make group chats across communities?

But once the company locks me out, I would neither have screen sharing nor video calls nor the DM list. Isn't it better to just use Matrix which may have less features but those features I can rely on for a long time without the risk of being locked out?

Maybe (like most people), you never get locked out.

You can be stubborn and rely on a platform your audience/community probably doesn’t want to use and have a very steep uphill battle to success. Or you can take a risk and rely on a platform you don’t own and have a (somewhat) less steep uphill battle to success.

If the platform is good enough and the benefits of using it are significant enough, people are going to take the risk. See: App Store development, selling on Amazon instead of your own e-commerce store, etc.

Re: Ask HN: Discord banned me with no recourse

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Post by _V_ »

I have also tried to contact support and it was painful.

At first you get an automated response from some bot which is unhelpfull. After some more diggin and poking around you get to a human but they just told me that they don't know details about flagging and cannot do anything in regards to these processes. So basically useless.

I really don't understand why it got so popular

edit: typo

Re: Ask HN: Discord banned me with no recourse

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Post by Bilal_io »

JonathanBeuys wrote: post #30

I don't get it. We keep seeing these dystopian stories again and again and again. Does anybody really believe it will ever stop? Or will we all live in fear of losing a lot of work and valuable connections by being banned from one of our social accounts? I already lost one Instagram account that I put a lot of work into. One day, Insta suddenly asked for my birthday. After me putting it in, all I saw is "Sorry, this…

> Does anybody really believe it will ever stop?

I don't. Regulation is the key in my opinion. Not fully sure what policies need to be enacted, but at the very least prohibit automated bans except for very trivial cases that don't really need human review.

Re: Ask HN: Discord banned me with no recourse

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Post by haunter »

ctrlmeta wrote: post #14

The popularity of Discord always surprises me! It takes hard work and time to create an active community. Why put all that hard work and time into a corporate-controlled platform that can lock you out of it anytime they want? How do people feel ok taking such a big risk? Why not use an open protocol like Matrix (or IRC if you're savvy) to form your community?

>The popularity of Discord always surprises me! It takes hard work and time to create an active community

Free dedicated voice chat with rich text chat. It was meant to take on Teamspeak, Ventrilo, Mumble etc. And it successfully did.

>or IRC if you're savvy

Totally different use case, not even comparable

Re: Ask HN: Discord banned me with no recourse

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Post by green-salt »

JonathanBeuys wrote: post #30

I don't get it. We keep seeing these dystopian stories again and again and again. Does anybody really believe it will ever stop? Or will we all live in fear of losing a lot of work and valuable connections by being banned from one of our social accounts? I already lost one Instagram account that I put a lot of work into. One day, Insta suddenly asked for my birthday. After me putting it in, all I saw is "Sorry, this…

I would love to have people move to this model, but its an extra layer of complexity that the masses will balk at, so they will stick to Facebook or Discord or even Slack.

Re: Ask HN: Discord banned me with no recourse

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Post by Rathseg »

bruce343434 wrote: post #26
chinathrow wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I understand why they are being made, but it's getting a bit tiring to see these on the front page so frequently. It's getting a bit tiring to see that these large corporations still can't figure it out on how to treat your user base regarding de-platforming.

This is barely "hacker" and definitely not "news".

Actually, I would consider it news. I learned something new as I have considered making a second discord account, one personal, one for more professional things since orgs seem to be picking it. I only have one phone number and and now know not to use it for both if they ever ask for it. I also learned that they may ask for your phone number and lock you out for no reason if you refuse to give it them even if you already have an account(I have yet to give them my phone number). This lets me know to be even less trusting of them and to make sure I don't depend on anything from their service.

Re: Ask HN: Discord banned me with no recourse

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Post by scrollaway »

JonathanBeuys wrote: post #30

I don't get it. We keep seeing these dystopian stories again and again and again. Does anybody really believe it will ever stop? Or will we all live in fear of losing a lot of work and valuable connections by being banned from one of our social accounts? I already lost one Instagram account that I put a lot of work into. One day, Insta suddenly asked for my birthday. After me putting it in, all I saw is "Sorry, this…

Technical solutions are not usually the answer to legal problems.

These theoretical cyberpunk-like crypto-networks only work in practice if you're uploaded to the matrix. Otherwise they fail the XKCD/538 Wrench Test.

Re: Ask HN: Discord banned me with no recourse

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Post by [deleted] »

ajkjk wrote: post #21
ctrlmeta wrote: post #14

The popularity of Discord always surprises me! It takes hard work and time to create an active community. Why put all that hard work and time into a corporate-controlled platform that can lock you out of it anytime they want? How do people feel ok taking such a big risk? Why not use an open protocol like Matrix (or IRC if you're savvy) to form your community?

Most people don't care about anything you mentioned.

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