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Re: Ask HN: Anyone having issues with job applicant fraud?

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post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They sometimes literally have a different person do the interview than shows up in person; no interview process catches that.

how about ID check? (if interview is conducted onsite in the office)

My understanding is that the scams usually target hiring processes that are all remote, often the applicants are from far away.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone having issues with job applicant fraud?

#32

what exactly is the endgame?

I imagine either: a) Get hired, collect a paycheck or two while doing the absolute bare minimum (filling out onboarding forms, etc - no real work) and then move on to the next victim company. or b) Get hired with the goal of getting access to improperly secured company or user data. I imagine a) is vastly more common than b).

With b), they are actually likely to be the real thing; just treacherous.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone having issues with job applicant fraud?

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Once worked at a 3rd party coding interview company as an interviewer, and we had a bunch of grad students from a college who were all clearly cheating. They solved the problem from the top of the page down (rather than organically, as someone would when doing actual programming) in a very specific way. The company didn't want to disqualify those candidates, since we couldn't prove cheating, but it was pretty fascina…

What happens to the ones who don’t cheat? If there is a curve of some sort they can be screwed even if they are well qualified.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone having issues with job applicant fraud?

#36

Simple - just auto-reject anyone who refuses to use a camera or answer specifics.

That still costs you (the employer) money. It's like a DoS attack for your hiring system.

E.g. a nefarious actor could harm a competitor by overwhelming them with fake applicants that it takes time to sift through.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone having issues with job applicant fraud?

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You do realize that at some point you will actually need to go to the company your are interviewing with in person and to provide a lot more personal information than just a blurry mugshot from a Zoom call in order to be able to be employed and collect a salary?? Nobody collects "critical PII" using job interviews, no company has time for such nonsense. The companies that do collect such information don't do it using…

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Re: Ask HN: Anyone having issues with job applicant fraud?

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Ug... as someone that one day would like to work remote this is infuriating. Anyone who is doing this, you're destroying trust and making life hard for the rest of us.

> Anyone who is doing this, you're destroying trust and making life hard for the rest of us. Sadly, they don't care. This is why we can't have nice things.

Um we can still have nice things if people stop being naive. It’s not hard to verify someone actually exists… there are ways.

Re: Ask HN: Anyone having issues with job applicant fraud?

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The FBI and other US federal agencies have attributed similar tactics to North Koreans looking to infiltrate particular industries [1-3].

[1] https://www.businessinsider.com/north-korean-crypto-job-cand...

[2] https://www.theregister.com/2022/05/17/fbi_korea_freelancers...

[3] https://www.wired.com/story/north-korean-it-scammer-alert/

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