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Re: Ask HN: How do you decide what to eat/mealplan?

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I found this on the internet 15 or 20 years ago. I can't find the original, but see https://www.indps.k12.wi.us/cms_files/resources/Power-Back-D...

Menus for Healthy Living

Want to know exactly what to eat? The following menus each contain between 1,500 and 1,800 calories and are designed around food-group servings from USDA's Food Pyramid. Use these menus as a guide to developing your own menus, substituting equivalent amounts of your favorite foods from within the same food group whenever you like. Vegetarians can easily substitute such meat and dairy alternatives as tofu and beans for protein, and calcium-fortified soy milk and soy milk products for the dairy category.

MENU 1

Breakfast

1/2 cup orange juice (1 Fruit)

1 cup cooked oatmeal (2 Grain)

1 cup low-fat milk (1 Milk)

Lunch

3 slices (3 ounces) turkey breast (1 Meat)

2 slices whole-grain bread (2 Grain)

Fresh spinach leaves and tomato slices (1 Vegetable)

1 tablespoon reduced-fat mayonnaise (1 Fat)

1 apple (1 Fruit)

Afternoon Snack

1/2 cup tomato juice (1 Vegetable)

2 large rice cakes (1 Grain)

Dinner

1 cup black bean soup(1 Meat Alternative)

1 corn tortilla, toasted (1 Grain) and topped with1 cup chopped cooked vegetables (2 Vegetable)

1/2 cup shredded reduced-fat Jack cheese (1 Dairy)

3 fresh pineapple rings (1 Fruit)

Snack

1 cup sugar-free, fat-free lemon yogurt (1 Dairy)

MENU 2

Breakfast

1 cup cantaloupe or Persian melon cubes (1 Fruit)

1/2 cup bran flakes cereal (1 Grain)

1 cup low-fat milk (1 Milk)

Lunch

1 cup lentil soup (1 Meat alternative)

1 cup raw spinach ( Vegetable)

1 cup sliced mushrooms (Vegetable)

1 tablespoon reduced-fat salad dressing (1 Fat)

2 large or 4 small bread sticks (2 Grains)

1/2 cup unsweetened applesauce (1 Fruit)

Snack

1 cup grapes (1 Fruit)

1 slice (3/4 ounce) reduced-fat cheese (1/2 Milk product)

Dinner

1 large flounder fillet (1 Meat) broiled with 1 teaspoon olive oil (1 Fat)

1 cup steamed broccoli spears (1 Vegetable)

1/2 small baked potato (2 Vegetable) topped with 1/2 cup nonfat plain yogurt (1/2 Milk product)

1/2 cup fruit salad (1 Fruit)

Snack

3 graham cracker rectangles or 6 squares (1 Grain)

1 cup low-fat milk (1 Milk)

MENU 3

Breakfast

1/2 grapefruit (1 Fruit)

1 slice whole-grain toast (1 Grain)

1 tablespoon reduced-calorie margarine or butter (1 Fat)

2 eggs, scrambled in nonstick skillet without fat (1 Meat)

1 cup low-fat milk (1 Milk)

Lunch

Pasta Salad: 1 cup cooked pasta (2 Grain) with 1 ounce reduced-fat cheese cubes (1 Milk)

1/2 cup chopped cooked vegetables (1 Vegetable)

2 tablespoons low-fat salad dressing (2 Fat)

1 cup melon chunks (1 Fruit)

Snack

4 pretzel rods (1 Bread)

1/2 cup vegetable or tomato juice (1 Vegetable)

Dinner

3 ounces lean steak (1 Meat), sliced and wrapped in 2 fat-free flour tortillas (2 Grain) with 1/2 cup diced tomato (1 Vegetable)

1 cup raw spinach leaves (1 Vegetable)

1/2 cup red or sweet white onion slices (1 Vegetable)

1 kiwi, peeled and sliced (1 Fruit)

Snack

2 cups air-popped popcorn (1 Grain)

MENU 4

Breakfast

3 small pancakes (3 Grain) with 2 tablespoons reduced-calorie syrup (Free) and1 cup blueberries (1 Fruit)

1 cup low-fat milk (1 Milk)

Lunch

Tuna Salad Sandwich: 2 slices whole-grain bread (2 Grain) 3 ounces water-packed tuna (1 Meat)

1 tablespoon reduced-fat mayonnaise (1 Fat)

Chopped, celery, lettuce leaves (Free)

1 pear (1 Fruit)

Snack

2 large cinnamon rice cakes (1 Grain) with 1/2 cup unsweetened applesauce (1 Fruit)

Dinner

1/2 chicken breast ( 1 Meat), baked or broiled, skin removed

1/2 cup cooked brown rice (1 Grain)

1 cup steamed zucchini and carrots (2 Vegetables)

1 small roll (1 Grain)

1 tablespoon reduced calorie margarine or butter (1 Fat)

Snack

1 cup fat-free, sugar-free hot cocoa, made with low-fat milk (1 Milk)

3 fat-free cookies (1 Grain)

MENU 5

Breakfast

1 large bagel (2 Grain), toasted with 1 ounce reduced-fat soft cheese (1 Milk)

1 cup strawberries (1 Fruit)

Lunch

1 cup split pea soup (1 Meat Alternative)

1 whole wheat pita pocket (2 Grain) filled with Shredded lettuce (Free)

1 ounce reduced-fat feta cheese (1 Milk)

1/2 cup chopped tomato (1 Vegetable)1 tablespoon reduced-fat vinaigrette dressing (1 Fat)

Snack

1 peach or 1/2 cup canned peaches packed in unsweetened juice (1 Fruit)

2 gingersnaps (1 Grain)

Dinner

3 ounces lean pork (1 Meat), stir-fried with 1/2 cup sweet red pepper, 1/2 cup onion and 1/2 cup sliced mushrooms (2 Vegetables) in 2 teaspoons vegetable oil (2 Fat)

1/2 cup cooked brown rice (1 Grain)

1 cup fresh pineapple cubes or 1/2 cup canned pineapple packed in unsweetened juice (1 Fruit)

Snack

1/2 cup low-fat frozen yogurt (1 Milk)

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Re: Ask HN: How do you decide what to eat/mealplan?

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I’ve been moderately depressed recently and it’s been really ruining my appetite. I have the worst eating habits in the life right now, and I’m unsure how to fix it. For reference i was always underweight, and medication i was taking was suppressing my appetite. I switched medications and ate WAY more. Was getting to a healthy weight, and i got COVID and that kinda ruined my appetite. Since then it’s almost been a ch…

> I’ve been moderately depressed recently and it’s been really ruining my appetite. I have the worst eating habits in the life right now, and I’m unsure how to fix it God I've been here for years, and haven't figured it out let. I don't like big meals, and I don't like standard schedule. I'd prefer just to snack throughout the day, but that's somewhat difficult to do in a way that's both healthy and appealing. My hun…

Yeah it’s definitely annoying thinking of what to eat everyday, i especially hate spending money to eat two bites and not want to eat at all after.

I’ve been trying to train my body to get hungry at “normal” times. I kinda hate breakfast, always have, but now I’ll eat a piece of fruit i enjoy in the morning. Later on in the day I’ll try and eat something else that’s small and i enjoy. My thought process is that if i continue to do this my body will start to crave food at that time and my appetite may come back.

I’ve had varying degrees of success so far, i don’t have the habit of the small healthy snacks yet so i keep having to remember. I think i may set up a bot to text me to eat at X time.

The depression definitely doesn’t help, hard to motivate to eat when you’re low. Dealing with that in parallel should help. When i can exercise again I’ll probably start doing that too for 30 minutes a day to build up an appetite.

Re: Ask HN: How do you decide what to eat/mealplan?

#34
> Eat lettuce all day?

This is what worked for me. I lost 70 pounds into a healthy weight range eating salad and vegetables, since working remote during the pandemic.

For lunch every workday I make a big salad: one head of romaine lettuce, bagged spinach, carrots, cucumber, bell pepper, tomato. No meat or cheese. Small amounts of dressing and croutons. Comes to 600-700 calories total depending on the dressing, and keeps me full for hours. There's great motivation to use what I buy since the greens will go bad if I don't.

Dinner is usually a bag of microwave steam-in-bag vegetables, plus something else veg-based, baked potatoes or canned black beans or chickpeas or something similar. I put seasonings on these, Dash brand or similar, lemon pepper or "everything" seasoning or other blends. No butter or any other garbage with dense calories. Again it's 600ish calories, with lots of bulk and fiber which is how you stay feeling full.

I describe it like this: this is what the human body evolved to eat in the hundred thousand years before we invented Mcdonald's.

I'm not super strict about following that all the time; maybe 75% of my meals do, with the rest being typical takeout or whatever if I'm out somewhere, usually on weekends. But there's enough slack in that plan that I can lose any stray pounds I pick up in a week or two.

I don't log food, just roughly estimate calories in my head over each day and week. I don't do anything about tracking fasting hours or anything like that. The description of this that works for me: "Eat all you want. Train yourself to only want healthy food."

Re: Ask HN: How do you decide what to eat/mealplan?

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When I shopped in person that's exactly what I would do and oddly enough I was not even aware of that rule of thumb at the time. I was only aware of what good food was. I'd load up on fruits, vegetables, salad components first. Back of the store was meats, milk, eggs. Other than spices, oils, and coffee there is not much reason to ever venture into the center aisles.

They key here is that "the perimeter" tends to be where the less-processed (and more perishable) foods are. Exceptions which are internal, as you note: spices, oils, coffee (and/or tea). I'd add: - Frozen fruits and vegetables, particularly if you want to buy bulk and reduce spoilage. Rapidly-frozen foods can be higher in nutrition than "fresh", most notably vitamin C, which degrades relatively rapidly. - Bulk grains…

Your habits are eerily identical to mine. All I did was ignore fads/hype and read Harvard Health. A botany elective in college was also extremely insightful and life changing.

Re: Ask HN: How do you decide what to eat/mealplan?

#36

From my experience, diets don't work. Everyone's physiology is different and I've created my own diet that is tailored to my needs, not the needs of some diet book author. One thing I need is plenty of sodium, since sodium is an essential nutrient, but bad in high amounts, so I limit my intake. I sweat a lot, so having essential electrolytes present in my system helps a lot. I also enjoy various nuts and seeds. Nuts…

One nit: A diet is the food you eat. It is your lifestyle. You don't go on a diet, you change your diet.

I think they meant prescriptive diets that are recommended by others

Re: Ask HN: How do you decide what to eat/mealplan?

#37

I found this on the internet 15 or 20 years ago. I can't find the original, but see https://www.indps.k12.wi.us/cms_files/resources/Power-Back-D... Menus for Healthy Living Want to know exactly what to eat? The following menus each contain between 1,500 and 1,800 calories and are designed around food-group servings from USDA's Food Pyramid. Use these menus as a guide to developing your own menus, substituting equival…

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Re: Ask HN: How do you decide what to eat/mealplan?

#38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One nit: A diet is the food you eat. It is your lifestyle. You don't go on a diet, you change your diet.

I think they meant prescriptive diets that are recommended by others

Oh I know, but repurposing the word diet to mean blanket change is what sets you up for failure. When you realize that you can focus on incremental change and really see benefits.

Another example I give is how long you have been eating your diet and you suddenly want to change it. Compare that to riding a bike. It probably took 2-3 years for you to become good at riding so much so that now it comes second nature after 10, 20, or 30 years. Apply that mentality to changing your diet and you will have much more success. Sometimes you fall off. You cry a bit, you dust yourself off, you get back on.

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