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Ask HN: 6-hour workdays more important than 4-day workweeks IMO

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Re: Ask HN: 6-hour workdays more important than 4-day workweeks IMO

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Why not both? 4 days, 6 hours each. Hey employers reading this. Having a hard time finding software engineers? Offer me this and I will come running. I’ll be banging on your door with my resume. Think about it.

Yeah “trouble finding talent” and yet it is the tired old 2010s Google perks being offered. Cheap/free food, couches and pingpong.

Offer low tech debt and good hours and get a queue form!

Re: Ask HN: 6-hour workdays more important than 4-day workweeks IMO

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If I give up the free day for less hours I sell more valuable hours of my time.

However it's also nice to work with more energy and never have any dreading late hours where you'd rather rest a bit some days.

I have a 4 day week but flexible enough so I can move hours over, but I only move 1-2h to my free day on average.

Re: Ask HN: 6-hour workdays more important than 4-day workweeks IMO

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Why not both? 4 days, 6 hours each. Hey employers reading this. Having a hard time finding software engineers? Offer me this and I will come running. I’ll be banging on your door with my resume. Think about it.

Are you willing to get paid 24/37 = 64% of a fulltime positions salary? If so, I think plenty of smaller employers would be happy to do this.

Nope. I will do more than 24/37 of the work. Probably in terms of value, just as much. (Just let me also choose what to work on and which meetings to attend)

Re: Ask HN: 6-hour workdays more important than 4-day workweeks IMO

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I like working long hours, but 6 hours is the absolute max for the majority of people for intense intellectual or creative work for a sustained period of time. Most super prolific creatives (painters/composers) do a routine of between 1.5 and 3 hour sessions, one or two sessions per day. Depending on the person, but very consistent once the person figures out their routine. That means 1.5 - 6 hours total. But this do…

Well, I'd love to have 6 hours or more of intellectual/creative work per day but in reality I get only 2-3, the rest is meetings and distractions.

Re: Ask HN: 6-hour workdays more important than 4-day workweeks IMO

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There are some rich people in the US who endorse 996. Calacanis being one. Imagine trying to be a bigger piece of shit. Japan isn’t even 996 & they’re going to have to start forcing people to have kids at gunpoint or kinda implode as a nation. Near purely because of their abysmal work culture. I recall when Cards Against Humanity paid for their overseas factory workers a day off by paying for a full factory day with…

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Re: Ask HN: 6-hour workdays more important than 4-day workweeks IMO

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I think people with 1 hour commutes would definitely prefer 4 day weeks

On the other hand, - support remote working - have better housing closer to where people work - if people want to commute an hour each way, that's on them

The issue with commuting is people have partners who work elsewhere so commuting is a compromise.

WFH solves this and allows commutes of up to 12000 miles.

Re: Ask HN: 6-hour workdays more important than 4-day workweeks IMO

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Meanwhile in China... Excerpts below taken from the website https://996.icu/#/en_US What is "996"? 996 working, ICU waiting. A "996" work schedule refers to an unofficial work schedule (9a.m. ~ 9p.m., 6 days a week) that has been gaining in popularity. Serving a company that encourages the "996" work schedule usually means working for at least 60 hours a week. In early September 2016, it was said that 58.com (58同城, a…

This is terrible, unfair, and morally wrong, but we can understand what it comes from: this is a difference between the so-called "developed" and "developing" countries. Because why do we work? To have money so that we can live comfortably. Work is not meant to fill in 40 or more hours of our life, it's just a means to and end. If we can have enough money by working less, many people chose this way. In the meantime,…

China is a modern country. I don't think Jack Ma's 996 makes any sense.

If you apply it to manual labour, you will get sick people. If you apply it to intellectual work, people will just pretend to work.

I think he is just plain greedy.

Re: Ask HN: 6-hour workdays more important than 4-day workweeks IMO

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I prefer the opposite. I would rather work dawn to bedtime for three or four days then have a block of time off. It minimizes context switching. I could get my head fully into work then fully out of work.

Exactly - context switching will make you less productive trying to fit in three different "modes" every day all week.

Re: Ask HN: 6-hour workdays more important than 4-day workweeks IMO

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post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are some rich people in the US who endorse 996. Calacanis being one. Imagine trying to be a bigger piece of shit. Japan isn’t even 996 & they’re going to have to start forcing people to have kids at gunpoint or kinda implode as a nation. Near purely because of their abysmal work culture. I recall when Cards Against Humanity paid for their overseas factory workers a day off by paying for a full factory day with…

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Continue that line of through - whats the gameplan?

Then those foreigners are forced into the same work culture that makes having a family impossible?

What's next?

Contunue leaching off countries that actually support sustainable survival of the human species?

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