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Ask HN: What tech companies/industries will do well in a recession?

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I work at a startup currently and am wondering if it’s time to start job hunting at the big companies because I worry about stability. There will be some flood of labor soon I can feel it in the air and I want to get in before that

Big companies have layoffs.

Some also insulate really well especially with shorter recessions. Like Apple, or Shopify, or Microsoft. They are very insular in many ways

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#32

I work at a startup currently and am wondering if it’s time to start job hunting at the big companies because I worry about stability. There will be some flood of labor soon I can feel it in the air and I want to get in before that

Keep a robust emergency fund on hand, always be networking, just be prepared for the separation call. Low burn rate + emergency fund + unemployment insurance = safety net during a recession. If you have any health issues you’ve been putting off having addressed, do it now while you have insurance.

Re: Ask HN: What tech companies/industries will do well in a recession?

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"Recession" is a bit ambiguous. To identify winners and losers in any economic climate you need to consider the specific factors at play, and the winners of previous "recessions" may or may not be winners in the next.

In this case _my_ assessment is that we're facing a prolonged period of high inflation partially fueled by factors which can't be mitigated by Fed actions (COVID lockdowns in China, global transportation backlogs, European conflict, food shortages) and perpetuated by high household savings levels. I don't think we're going to face significant slowdown of consumer spending this year.

In that economic environment, consumer staples which do their own production and have the ability to quickly respond to inflation are favoured. I'm in a sector ETF for this.

I also believe profitable tech which is ad-funded is at an advantage - anything where prices are set by auction and ROI is demonstrable/visible is golden, as are industries like cloud computing which have natural deflationary economics. This implies Meta/Goog/MSFT (and in this I'm betting on specific tactics and am choosing specific companies).

Those are my bets, you should form your own hypothesis and extrapolate appropriately.

Also note that these are systemic factors, but will always be dominated by idiosyncratic realities. Individual stocks are only loosely correlated with sector movement, if you think you have a winner or asymmetric knowledge about a specific company don't let larger trends dissuade you (or vice versa).

Finally, a corollary to the above: when you invest on macro/sector trends, do so through sector/strategy ETFs. If you're investing on asymmetric knowledge or insight, invest in specific equities. Combine the two strategies at your peril.

Re: Ask HN: What tech companies/industries will do well in a recession?

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> Companies that cater mostly to luxury clients Nah - look at what happened to the Boating industry in 2009. The values of jetskis, sailboats, etc took a major hit as demand dried up. Boats are considered luxury items

You have a valid point, I was thinking luxury retail.

Why would luxury retail be a good harbor in a recession? Usually luxury spending goes down.

Re: Ask HN: What tech companies/industries will do well in a recession?

#36
From all the FAANGMULA companies, only Apple and Facebook haven't had layoffs during a recession.

Yes, even Microsoft had some layoffs back in 2008-2009, and Google had some 'stealth' closures. Also they did a hire freeze as well back then. Just right now they laid off the GCP customer support team. We know all the others (Uber, Airbnb, Lyft, etc, had all layoffs as well).

It really depends on the CEO's mentality. Some companies, even if their balance sheet is fine, they will use as an excuse to cut some fat.

So far only Apple and Meta are the exceptions.

Re: Ask HN: What tech companies/industries will do well in a recession?

#37

We're arguably in a recession right now: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_recession Companies offering free services or cheap ownership of things should do well I think, but any company that relies on subscriptions or upgrades would be hit hard.

>any company that relies on subscriptions or upgrades would be hit hard.

Fingers crossed that this would reduce the obnoxious trend of pay a sub for locally run SW. I recently looked in to apps that would help my workflow out on MacOS and all the ones that might have helped were leachware.

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#39

I work at a startup currently and am wondering if it’s time to start job hunting at the big companies because I worry about stability. There will be some flood of labor soon I can feel it in the air and I want to get in before that

Build up your emergency fund to at least 6 months of living expenses.

> There will be some flood of labor soon I can feel it in the air and I want to get in before that

I'm currently still getting several recruiter emails per day. I realize this could change quickly, but so far we're still very much in the talent aquisition and retention phase (in tech, anyway).

Re: Ask HN: What tech companies/industries will do well in a recession?

#40
In every recession we have seen a big uptick in startups being created. If you look at the last big one in 2008 a number of notable startups got their start including Twilio. So I would imagine the same will happen if we dip into a big recession. We are starting to see some of that happen now. I read a report that in 2021 VCs invested in double the SaaS companies than they did in 2020. However, 2020 was a bad year for all VC funding, but it says something that the growth in VC backed SaaS companies grew so drastically while the market has struggled for the past two years.
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