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Ask HN: What to do about Gmail blocking my email?
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Re: Ask HN: What to do about Gmail blocking my email?
#32Try a mailwarmer to improve your sender score - gmass.co/warmup worked for me before
Thanks
Re: Ask HN: What to do about Gmail blocking my email?
#33Earlier quoted context omitted.
> This is unfair. Yes it is very unfair. Gmail is basically incentivizing you to send thousands of mails or use hacks like inbox warmups. The same happens for SEO when you have to care more about backlinking and keywords than actual content. Unfortunately there is nothing you can do about it. It's how things are at the moment :/
> there is nothing you can do about it. I can speak up about it. Others can too. We don’t have to live under these conditions.
Do you have a better idea to reduce the amount of spam?
It's a good thing that it's very hard to send lots of mails to strangers
Spammers do everything you do and a lot more, yet most of them are blocked(and just imagine what would happen if they could send as many mails as they want without going through all those hoops, we'd get basically nothing but spam)
The only reasonable solution if you're not a big/reputable business is to use a service like mailgun/mailjet/mailchimp/sendgrid, for a small business it would cost next to nothing(or even just 0$, if you can get some free credits or a small free plan)
It will save you a lot of headaches
Re: Ask HN: What to do about Gmail blocking my email?
#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
> there is nothing you can do about it. I can speak up about it. Others can too. We don’t have to live under these conditions.
Do you have a better idea to reduce the amount of spam? It's a good thing that it's very hard to send lots of mails to strangers Spammers do everything you do and a lot more, yet most of them are blocked(and just imagine what would happen if they could send as many mails as they want without going through all those hoops, we'd get basically nothing but spam) The only reasonable solution if you're not a big/reputable…
I’m not a business. I don’t send mass emails. I never have.
Re: Ask HN: What to do about Gmail blocking my email?
#35Gmail algorithm doesn't depend entirely on those factors you mention, it's a message per message basis, the problem is that people are marking you as spam. You have to check your emails and detect what's triggering the spam filter inside the content, give it some time to send the next one, and clean your list urgently, even confirming your users if they want to be in your list.
this is definitely not true at all. of course the scale and rate of emails coming from a specific ip/domain is used for spam detection.
Re: Ask HN: What to do about Gmail blocking my email?
#36think about what the PM of antispam at Gmail is optimizing for. their job is to provide defense against adversarial spammers.
anything trivial for you to do to get into someone's inbox can also be trivial for spammers. they'll have a bot that do it 1000 times a day. Gmail can't stop spam altogether so the general strategy is to try to make it as painful and expensive as possible to deter the marginal spammers.
any sort of spam at scale is easier to detect. that's why most marginal spam happens with new IP. similar issue in the past with hacked Gmail accounts. this is where google is cracking down harder and why you're running into these issues.
Re: Ask HN: What to do about Gmail blocking my email?
#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
Do you have a better idea to reduce the amount of spam? It's a good thing that it's very hard to send lots of mails to strangers Spammers do everything you do and a lot more, yet most of them are blocked(and just imagine what would happen if they could send as many mails as they want without going through all those hoops, we'd get basically nothing but spam) The only reasonable solution if you're not a big/reputable…
I’m not a business. I don’t send mass emails. I never have.
when I say mass I mean more than the average user, especially to senders who never messaged you