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Ask HN: What creative field will be safe from AI?

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Re: Ask HN: What creative field will be safe from AI?

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Post by ralusek »

I wouldn't fight against using AI as a tool. Ironically, if you had asked most people 15 years ago what sorts of things AI wouldn't be good at, they would've said something like "creativity" or "idea generation." I think most people would've expected AI to do some level of polish while the people were the fountains of creativity.

Reality has given us the exact opposite situation. AI has proven to be basically a bounded RANDOM function that can instantly throw countless weird and unique ideas our way in seconds. Fighting against this is fighting against a great tool. The power of a concept artist designing a new landscape to just describe a few things, have AI output a few ideas, and then off you go, sampling interesting color palettes, taking forms or ideas from here or there. The power of a composer to have gone through 50 AI generated melodies to find a couple of hooks that they probably wouldn't've thought of, only to inspire a new variant, or to pull them in and build around them.

TL;DR don't fight it, use it as an idea generator to give you some Lego blocks for a particular creative Enterprise. Your role will shift more to the taste maker, where you'll be expected to have good artistic taste for curating and assembling and guiding AI outputs.

Re: Ask HN: What creative field will be safe from AI?

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Post by adverbly »

My 2 minute take: Anything that needs an understanding of the big picture context.

So creating interconnected or intersectional works, and weaving them together repeatedly and meaningfully over long periods. I'd say that sort of thing is quite far off, and possibly not even coming without another tech breakthrough.

It cant write songs, stories, long jokes, create brands, create videos, create businesses...

We might start to see commercialized products having some success at figuring out static things like style though in the next 5 to 10 years. Fashion and interior designers have "things are a bit harder in 3D" as a shield at the moment, but it might just be a matter of time for them... it will likely depend on how much manufacturability constraints can be trained.

Re: Ask HN: What creative field will be safe from AI?

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Post by marc_io »

enhray wrote: post #17
sircastor wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> All of 'em. All of them will be safe. AI generated content is devoid of meaning… None of ‘em. None of them will be safe. Humans ascribe meaning to works where there is none, and intent by the artist or an AI can be wholly immaterial to what people appreciate about it. Great works may come from AI but the greatness of a work is virtue of the work itself. That said, just because a computer can do it doesn’t mean that…

No piece of art exists without context. With AI there is no context, no meaning, no relevance. A pretty image by itself is just that - a bunch of bytes displayed on device of your choice.

There's always some sort of context, this is what allows something to exist in the first place. And even if the artist may define that the context is not “valid”, the audience can make anything it wants with it.

Re: Ask HN: What creative field will be safe from AI?

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Post by ksec »

I think this may be a little pre-mature? As with lots of things that last 20% is going to take the same amount of time as the first 80%. We are currently still no-where near Lv5 AV. And I made the bet in 2018 we will barely get to that point by 2030. And lots more work to be done post 2030.

Another thing with Art is that the current low to mid level art work could be outsourced to a much cheaper labour country. In terms of Web Design, Stock footage etc. They are a much bigger threat now than AI.

Re: Ask HN: What creative field will be safe from AI?

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Post by marc_io »

hitpointdrew wrote: post #30

Food factories exist, it’s relatively cheap and easy to get a loaf of wonder bread. But, that hasn’t completely killed off bakeries. There is always going to be a demand for artisan versions off mass produced cookie cutter things. No matter how impressive an AI generated art can become it will always be devoid of real emotion and passion and people will realize that, even if only subconsciously.

> it will always be devoid of real emotion and passion

Unfortunately, this is subject to fraud, and can be manipulated for commercial purposes. I can easily see some “Milli Vanilli“ type of visual artists coming out of this.

Re: Ask HN: What creative field will be safe from AI?

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Post by esotericimpl »

needlefish wrote: post #29
tkgally wrote: post #21

I thought the same thing after seeing the Dall-E productions. As others have noted, they look good enough for a lot of commercial purposes—book and album covers, magazine and website illustrations, advertisements. My daughter is a professional illustrator, and I wondered how safe her career will be in the years ahead. My tentative guess is that creators whose individual personality and identity are an important part…

There is also something cool and interesting about AI generated art currently because it is new and fresh. At some point though that will wear off. Personally, I love hyperrealism when it comes to painting. Of course, a child could basically take a photograph now and be on par with a master hyperrealist compared to hundreds of years ago but the output in isolation is not what matters. The display of human skill is wh…

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