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Re: Ask HN: Taking Time Off?

#31

I’m currently sitting on a plane to Madrid after quitting my job last week. I was in a similar boat as you. Personally I’ve never believed in putting off your dreams until you’re least able to enjoy them - retirement. If you’re good at what you do, I highly recommend taking mini retirements every few years. There’s no better way to explore what’s important to you. But let’s imagine the worst happens and the world plu…

Madrid/Spain would be my dream destination. I may go there as well.

No family to speak for (of my own).

Re: Ask HN: Taking Time Off?

#32
I took several times a few months off and once even an entire year. I travelled the world, been to the most amazing places, met incredible people, seen and done things I can’t tell anyone because they’d think I’ve made them up, collected memories which I’ll remember until my grave and every time when I came back and looked for work potential employers were very positive and congratulated me on being brave and they told me every time they regretted that they never did anything like it. So in one short answer: Go for it, 100%!!!

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#33
I worried about this too the first time I took time off to work on a startup. I don't want to imply this will be the case for everyone, but for me I found that when I went back into a more traditional job it was actually much easier to get hired and the offers were generally higher.

I think some of that had to do with the nature of the field I work in and the startup I work on. But in reality, as long as you know how to code...this is kind of the determining factor. You might have to take a job you don't like as much or something (though again, maybe not even that) but there is just such high demand for software developers that it's hard to imagine becoming completely unhirable.

I want to emphasize that my message here isn't that there is no risk, but that after doing it this risk feels much smaller than it initially did.

Even if you aren't working on a startup, you may find that if you label it as your "sabbatical" and casually and joyfully explain that you wanted to try taking a big block of time off to do things you're interested in. Some companies will find this offputting, but as many or more will find it interesting and want to hear more.

Frankly when trying to hire developers companies can't really afford to be picky anyway. If they are it's not a great sign of what it might be like to work there.

Re: Ask HN: Taking Time Off?

#34
I’ve gotten burned out and taken 3+ months off between jobs for my entire career. Every future job has respected the fact that I could afford to take that time off.

If you’re asking this question it means you live in the US. As Nike says, just do it.

Re: Ask HN: Taking Time Off?

#35
I've taken time off work in the past (by resigning), and found it very helpful to stop my mind cycling through the same worn negative mental pathways caused by work related stress & my perception and emotion about that situation. From memory, after about a month of time off -- with plenty of time outside exercising, lots of discussions with friends and former colleagues, and no software development -- I felt completely different.

In my case it didn't lead to "career suicide", it accidentally led to me becoming aware of the market for contract engineers, so I went and did that for around three years for an effective 3x increase over my old salary, before negotiating a permie role with a salary anchored against my modest contract rate. The 3x jump is less amazing than it sounds as I was paid under market in my prior job.

Much of this outcome was not in my control or due to my skill or planning, it was simply a result of the labour market: there was a good market for software engineers, I had a few solid years of professional experience, I had some professional connections and reputation from working in the old job that let me easily get a different role in a related sector.

If I were in a similar situation in future, my advice would be:

* resigning immediately isn't necessarily the best move, even when you definitely do need to to move on from the current job. First take paid leave (if any remains) or unpaid leave (if that can be negotiated). Then you have a stronger position when negotiating the terms of a new role. But if the market is good and you can get multiple competing offers, maybe that doesn't matter so much.

* recognise how I am feeling and take action to improve or change the situation earlier. Being passive and letting things get worse can impact mental health, which can reduce your motivation to improve the situation and ability plan and execute reasonable decisions.

* in the longer term, you achieve financial independence when you have an investment portfolio with an expected return that covers your baseline living expenses. If you have saved and invested roughly 25x your baseline living expenses into equities, then you are free, things go nonlinear, phase transition, you have achieved escape velocity for infinite sabbatical. Spending accumulated savings to live for 1-3 months without income might be a great short-term move to let you get healthy and explore the next steps for your career or life. Spending accumulated savings to live for a longer time without income might set you back in the longer run and have less upside.

Re: Ask HN: Taking Time Off?

#36
I've taken a year off before and it was great for the most part. The first month or two I hardly touched a computer, I spent time with my family and a lot of time in nature. After a couple months I started getting sucked back in, I limited my involvement to a couple of advisory roles. By month 9/10 I was ready get back back to a more "normal" work cadence.

Re: Ask HN: Taking Time Off?

#37
I took 2 years break, after like 4 years of work. Totally worth it if you can afford it.

I don't care if that affects my career, I just wanna make enough money to live and that's all.

Re: Ask HN: Taking Time Off?

#38

From the been-there-done-that department: * Sitting in a beach chair gets old in one or two weeks. Use the time to skill up: spend a few hours a day building something, or do a masters degree or short term course - maybe somewhere picturesque in Europe. * Starting up is going to burn you out more than you are now. And possibly in addition to being burnt out you will have much less money than you do now. * You will fi…

> maybe somewhere picturesque in Europe. This is the daydream that keeps me going now. I think you have some salient points; I would stay busy in the sense of making things (software) while I'm away. > You will find another job unless you quit into the start of the recession.. This is probably what I fear, and why I'm asking around. With the inflation & supply chain issues recently, and with the current yield curve i…

Maybe apply to YC or some other seed stage fund with your best idea once you spend a few months developing the concept and talking to potential customers. By the time the process completes you should be well recharged too.

My startup was funded through revenues from day zero, the world entered a recession soon after, and that was a motherf** hard grind. Spending other peoples risk capital would be easier on yourself.

Re: Ask HN: Taking Time Off?

#39

I’m currently sitting on a plane to Madrid after quitting my job last week. I was in a similar boat as you. Personally I’ve never believed in putting off your dreams until you’re least able to enjoy them - retirement. If you’re good at what you do, I highly recommend taking mini retirements every few years. There’s no better way to explore what’s important to you. But let’s imagine the worst happens and the world plu…

Pretty interesting timing! I was on a plane ride to Barcelona around the same time you sent this, and I had also quit my job last week as well.

I’m planning on trying out the mini-retirement route. Not much more to add here, but I hope your travels go well!

Re: Ask HN: Taking Time Off?

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post #35

I've taken time off work in the past (by resigning), and found it very helpful to stop my mind cycling through the same worn negative mental pathways caused by work related stress & my perception and emotion about that situation. From memory, after about a month of time off -- with plenty of time outside exercising, lots of discussions with friends and former colleagues, and no software development -- I felt complete…

mind discussing a bit more about how you started doing contract work? I'm very interested in this, but unsure how to make it into a reliable source of income
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