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It's pretty good and practical. The only real downsides are in the library availability and deployment vs. more established languages. I'd choose to use it if I could though, it has the least downsides of any language IMO.
Wasn't Amazon buying ownership of it recently? Seems a substantial disadvantage if that comes to pass
Edit to add: https://foundation.rust-lang.org/members/
It solves a large class of problems that are not handled in C and C++. Some people are hyped that it can solve all problems under the son, while others don't like the hype talk or are deeply invested in C and C++ knowledge and don't like their belittlement.
Sometimes it feels that I'm being left behind since I don't use Rust yet. Better get crackin'
Rust fixes some issues that haven been present in most mainstream languages for decades, while maintaining performance. There are many such languages or tools - Haskell (or other FP languages) or Erlang being among them - that have some vocal minorities that actually use them. The reality is that these language are highly unlikely to ever gain the traction they might arguable deserve.
Are you putting Haskell and Rust in the same category when it comes to likely future adoption? They seem very different to me - Haskell being unlikely to get much more traction, and the opposite for Rust.
I don't feel like this aspect is debatable. Our systems are miserably insecure and unwilling to trade off performance to become more secure. Without Rust or something like it, there's no chance - that's the difference.
If those here are hoping for the hype to die down, they are going to be waiting a while.
You do not question or criticise The Rusted Holy Grail and the Riscy Silver Bullet.
Rust doesn't have these issues owing to the "newness" of the language and the memory model. If you're are a C or C++ dev then this is very exciting. If you are an engineer who was always turned off of native coding due to C/C++, then this is very exciting. If you just like languages, then this is pretty exciting to.
I haven't seen much pumping for Rust. It is a great language but I see Go and even Ada and Ocaml are mentioned a lot (relative to actual adaption) here. There are lots more esoteric languages getting hyped on HN. There was even a popular post about .NET the other day.
But .NET is still way more popular (by popular I mean used) than Ocaml, Haskell or even Rust no? (I could be completely wrong, just my impression).
There's a cycle to these things, e.g. a few years back "XYZ in Go" was a lot on HN, because that was the new cool thing people were curious about. Now probably more people use Go, but it's not as interesting anymore as something people don't really know yet. And thus projects written in it don't highlight it as often, so even if they are discussed its not as obvious. OCaml and Haskell also aren't new, but haven't reached the saturation of "many people know them", so if something about them pops up its still interesting to more people.
It's pretty good and practical. The only real downsides are in the library availability and deployment vs. more established languages. I'd choose to use it if I could though, it has the least downsides of any language IMO.
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There is a reason disheartened veterans gravitate toward a project like Rust. We've seen a lot in our career and much of what we do when it comes to our own tools is automate the detection and elimination of causes of bugs where we can. It is possible to recognize that "all code is garbage" and "it is a miracle anything works" while also still pushing our industry forward and improving lives for software engineers. A…
The LISP comparison doesn’t ring true to me or even the ‘ergonomic ML’. There is nothing ergonomic about Rust at all compared to managed languages, but if you are willing to fight with the borrow checker you can get managed language safety with C speed. (I wonder though if we’d be better off with a closely integrated assembler and theorem prover if portability was not so important.)
And of course: the enums, match, Option/Result, performance and a handful of other great stuff.