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Ask HN: Who's getting pulled back into the office?

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Re: Ask HN: Who's getting pulled back into the office?

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There are a number of problems with WfH. There's no work community or camaraderie at home . Doggo should count. Kittah jumping on the keyboard is just using you for food and grooming. There's no grabbing lunches. There's no visiting X down the hall. No grabbing a beer after work. Boss G, H, or J can't see you around. Colleagues M, N, P, and Q don't have a sense of your performance or amount of work that happens far a…

As an introvert, the majority of these read like upsides to me.

Re: Ask HN: Who's getting pulled back into the office?

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There are a number of problems with WfH. There's no work community or camaraderie at home . Doggo should count. Kittah jumping on the keyboard is just using you for food and grooming. There's no grabbing lunches. There's no visiting X down the hall. No grabbing a beer after work. Boss G, H, or J can't see you around. Colleagues M, N, P, and Q don't have a sense of your performance or amount of work that happens far a…

Honestly most of these are positives not negatives.

Re: Ask HN: Who's getting pulled back into the office?

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post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why is that?

For us it was supposed to be a rotation, with people in on different days so you're still doing all your meetings on Zoom but now you need to drive an hour to do it.

Had a similar situation.

Had to go in one day a week to spend the day on Zoom to the team overseas we where working with. Two to three hours lost a day commuting to use Zoom at a desk in the office instead of Zoom in my home office.

Ironically the days we where forced to go in where the least productive days as we’d catch-up with other colleagues, get coffees, get lunch etc. We looked busy though and that’s what the CEO wanted, it was a one day check in for all intent and purposes to make sure we where not slacking at home.

Re: Ask HN: Who's getting pulled back into the office?

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Fun thing is that people will decide if it's "over" or not. Not corporations.

If most of employees hands in resignation notes; then the policy will be reverted as quickly as it was created. Unless whole management is toxic and they cannot survive without having ability to micro-manage and shoulder-peek all day long.

Re: Ask HN: Who's getting pulled back into the office?

#37
I’m considering changing from a remote-always job to a remote-until-after-Covid job, because I’ve learned over the past several years that I got better work done in offices than at home. The job I’m hoping for is definitely all-in on offices for better reasons than usual, and it’d make a really nice change from the endless blur of WFH. If I’m lucky at timing, I’ll be accepted and they’ll pull everyone back in and I can negotiate a relocation stipend.

Re: Ask HN: Who's getting pulled back into the office?

#38
Here in Europe it's starting to happen already. These companies that are forcing 80% office or anything below are starting to loose talent.

We are a cloud shop 100% remote and I can say we have been hiring some really good talent at the major companies just because of this.

Some people even accept a full pay cut for this.

Re: Ask HN: Who's getting pulled back into the office?

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Canada here: Not yet back in the office but plan is 2 days a week. Personally it seems like the worst of both worlds.

Yes I think forced hybrid is the worst of both worlds. If I can't use the fact that my job is remote to move somewhere that's cheaper so I can have a proper office at home, then I am stuck living closer to work and working in a smaller apartment (EU) and having to deal with a different work environment 1-2 days a week. In Hindi there's a saying, "dhobi ka kutta, na ghar ka na ghat ka" - essentially that you're like a dog that doesn't belong either outdoors or indoors.

If it is your own choice though, its a different story.

Re: Ask HN: Who's getting pulled back into the office?

#40
Here the rule is in office AT LEAST three days per week. They fooled us, said vaccinations was to save lives. Instead it was just to squeeze us back into offices again. :( Productivity must have really plummeted during the pandemic otherwise I can't understand why they are demanding office presence so much. Here Covid deaths are still high (20-30/day) so it's not even a good time to end restrictions.
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