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Ask HN: What Has Happened to Twitter?

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Re: Ask HN: What Has Happened to Twitter?

#31

The "uBlock Origin" browser extension blocks Twitter's login prompt and enables you to read posts without logging in.

Does uBlock Origin enable you to read threads?

Opening a thread and scrolling down results in a login prompt being shown; but simply removing the login prompt still doesn't let me load further tweets from that thread, at least not when I remove the login prompt manually (via web inspector).

Re: Ask HN: What Has Happened to Twitter?

#32
post #14

> I thought courts already decided in the US that the public has a right to access official government communications on social media [citation needed] Twitter is kind of disintegrating, though. They've hit a growth plateau, the users are really fractious, management doesn't understand what they want out of it, and it's the venue for social strife.

> Twitter is kind of disintegrating, though.

I have never seen a for-profit social networking site that is immune to this on a long enough timeline. They all degrade eventually. By following what the money wants from users , not what the users want.

> "The junk merchant doesn't sell his product to the consumer, he sells the consumer to his product. He does not improve and simplify his merchandise. He degrades and simplifies the client."

- William S. Burroughs

Re: Ask HN: What Has Happened to Twitter?

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post #23
post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nothing about this requires blockchain. There are plenty of Twitter archive sites like nitter.net that are not only open source, but also have plenty[0] of distributed instances on good old "web 2" [0] https://github.com/zedeus/nitter/wiki/Instances

Nitter can only archive (and update) data Twitter allows them to access. For example, you cannot see who liked a Tweet on Nitter.

> "Nitter can only archive (and update) data Twitter allows them to access."

That's exactly what you'd expect from a Twitter archive site. The author's point was that this is the same tech you'd need for a Twitter replacement, and this doesn't need blockchain or web3.

Reminds me of the comment on HN from a few months back "On web2 music artists only get 18% of the revenue. Spotify gets 33%. The music industry takes 49%. Web3 flips the script." You don't need blockchain or web3 to fix that either - centralised solutions like bandcamp.com already give the artist 80-90%.

Re: Ask HN: What Has Happened to Twitter?

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post #3

You can read directly linked tweets or the first few posts of a Twitter page but as soon as you interact with the page or try to navigate elsewhere, you get prompted for a login. So technically they're not preventing access, but they nag you incessantly after you've scrolled past the fold.

So they got on par with pinterest. Strange pattern.

Pinterest pioneered it but today most of the popular platforms are doing some sort of login nagging, including Facebook, Instagram, Tiktok, Reddit, Quora, LinkedIn, etc. I'd say Twitter was an exception and this change doesn't surprise me, sadly.

Re: Ask HN: What Has Happened to Twitter?

#35
It's despicable behavior isn't it?

There's a "normalization" that it's acceptable for companies such as Reddit, Twitter, Facebook etc to enourage the world to post information on their website, and then block access to casual visitors once they got successful.

It's ABHORRENT FILTH and morally grotesque. They are causing human misery every day by deciding certain people are [outgroup] and do not have the same rights as logged-in users [ingroup].

Reddit, Twitter and Facebook are psychopath companies, and anyone working for them is part of the "ingroup vs outgroup" degradation of society.

Re: Ask HN: What Has Happened to Twitter?

#36
post #11

Just in case some of you don't know about it yet, you can browser Twitter without logging in using a nitter instance (e.g., https://nitter.net/ ). The url are the same just replace "twitter.com" with the nitter instance URL. The interface is clean and smooth, and makes twitter links actually sharable with anyone.

The main problem with this is that Nitter relies on the Twitter API, and they frequently run out of "request budget". In this case you need to switch to a different Nitter instance, but then your link sharing problem is back.

Re: Ask HN: What Has Happened to Twitter?

#38
There are two reasonable ways of using twitter

1) on a third party client like Tweetbot which just shows exactly the tweets of those you follow, in order, and nothing else. Nothing promoted, no ads, no trending keywords

2) Not at all

I have no idea why anyone would want to use the official Twitter app or the twitter dot com web site. Once you have used a third party client (which behaves like the original Twitter!) you won’t go back.

Granted, you need an account to use a third party client so the no-login thing is obviously not working there either, but at least you are protected from the constant front end churn in the official clients. This is just one such example.

Re: Ask HN: What Has Happened to Twitter?

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post #15

I think this is one reason why "web3", social media with a decentralized storage layer, could become a thing. As a user, when I tweet something, I do want the whole world to be able to read it. Without logging in. Ideally via the interface of their choice. Orbis is a proof of concept: https://orbis.club/ A Twitter clone that stores the tweets on Arweave.

Mastodon (https://joinmastodon.org) and the rest of the fediverse (https://www.fediverse.to) are well established if you're looking for a good alternative to Twitter.
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