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Ask HN: What keeps you from beginning your Start Up?

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Re: Ask HN: What keeps you from beginning your Start Up?

#31

I'm still in high school, but this summer i had a chance of getting a job. I didn't get one, instead i decided that i need to learn to program better and learn a few new languages. I also learned to draw, and I've been working on my writing style and my English. I also learned a lot of otter stuff(how to meditate for example). I don't know if I'll ever get a "real job", but I'll avoid it if i can. I probably will get…

I really recommend you take a real job at some point in your life for at least 6 months.

Some of the best lessons in life come from contrast. Being able to remember what it was like at a regular job provides a lot of motivation for people to continue working hard at their own company. You will also learn some good lessons about what to do, what not to do and make contacts.

Re: Ask HN: What keeps you from beginning your Start Up?

#33
The freedom to develop code I want to in the manner I wish to. Enough of the usual crappy corporate tools/procedures/apathy.

To be judged on what I produce not how many hours I'm in the office.

Rewards equal to my contribution, this is where corporations fall down completely. If I'm ten times more productive than my team mates why am I not rewarded in such a manner OR to be more truthful I will not put in any more effort than is needed to secure my position in the corporate hierarchy. So I dutifully do what I consider a mediocre amount of work and yet am rewarded in the top 10%

I couldn't care less for the crappy soda and chips or a paid lunch. Pay me the money and I'll decide how I wish to spend it.

Re: Ask HN: What keeps you from beginning your Start Up?

#35
For me it's the need to try and do something for myself, and to do something that is excellent - something I'm proud of.

I've been in large corporates for 10 years. A corporate can basically never compete against this kind of desire (which, is actually quite rare).

Even though I've got more senior over the years, you just end up with less control over more - until you reach the point that you're just a powerpoint jockey.

It's almost impossible to do something innovative at a large corporate - because of the inertia and the massive amount of consensus building that's required to do anything different. Pure design doesn't exist, it's an exercise in compromise.

That's not meant to knock it. The environment suits many (i.e most) people. It won't suit everyone though.

Personally, I've never found going over the top to keep someone around is a good idea - If someone wants to leave to broaden their horizons, I'd encourage it.

Sometimes they leave and succeed - then they're a great person to keep in contact with. Sometimes they leave and it doesn't work out - in this case they sometimes come back, and usually a much better and more capable person for the experience.

Re: Ask HN: What keeps you from beginning your Start Up?

#36
Depending on how far you're willing to go with this, there is the best of both worlds. Give him command over a group. If they get somewhere, offer the chance to lead a spinoff.

The other thing that'll hold a hacker in a job is a hot wife and a good family life. A man's focus can change over life, and one can prefer to put their heart there instead of in the industry. Of course, there are few legal ways to work in this area...

Re: Ask HN: What keeps you from beginning your Start Up?

#37
post #31

I'm still in high school, but this summer i had a chance of getting a job. I didn't get one, instead i decided that i need to learn to program better and learn a few new languages. I also learned to draw, and I've been working on my writing style and my English. I also learned a lot of otter stuff(how to meditate for example). I don't know if I'll ever get a "real job", but I'll avoid it if i can. I probably will get…

I really recommend you take a real job at some point in your life for at least 6 months. Some of the best lessons in life come from contrast. Being able to remember what it was like at a regular job provides a lot of motivation for people to continue working hard at their own company. You will also learn some good lessons about what to do, what not to do and make contacts.

I probably will, but i doubt it will be a programming job, but who knows? I don't.

Re: Ask HN: What keeps you from beginning your Start Up?

#38
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Nothing, I'm on my second one. Oh, and to answer your question, what made me go start my own business is I couldn't stand the way things were done in the big corp world. I'm impatient. I want to get things done. I want to achieve things. I cannot stand the idea of being given orders. I have no respect for authority, only for competence. I want to realise my potential. The tedious and endless game of corporate politic…

+5 for this one I'm impatient. The ease at which established companies take important matters and the time it requires to have a simple change kills me. And decisions take an eternity.

Re: Ask HN: What keeps you from beginning your Start Up?

#40
Your post in and of itself is why your employee wants to found a startup. Instead of sitting down directly with him and saying, "What will it take to keep you here?" and listening to the nitty gritty of what he wants for himself, which would totally make your post here unncessary, you are posting here, trying to convince everyone bullet by bullet why corporate life is the shiz and looking for someone to hand you some magical answer that you can whisper in his ear to get him to continue working for you.

Look at it this way; people don't leave companies when they:

a) Have a vested interest in staying (they share in the rewards) b) They believe in the company's vision. c) They believe the company is run by competent individuals who can execute that vision.

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