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Re: Ask HN: Who's not sucky to work for?

#31

In my experience small companies tend to be the best to work for, but this varies wildly. Large companies are more reliably mediocre across the board, but bad small companies can be outright abusive (usually you can detect these with a few questions in an interview... for example, ask how often employees work outside of regular hours).

This is accurate in my experience.

Actually, I'd say you're lucky if you find a small company that isn't at least mildly dysfunctional.

Re: Ask HN: Who's not sucky to work for?

#32
Well I just tried to use glassdoor to try and grasp how it is to work at apple as a software engineer. Glassdoor is terrible. I think there is a business opportunity here. Make a site just for developers. Hackerdoors or something.

Re: Ask HN: Who's not sucky to work for?

#33

In my experience small companies tend to be the best to work for, but this varies wildly. Large companies are more reliably mediocre across the board, but bad small companies can be outright abusive (usually you can detect these with a few questions in an interview... for example, ask how often employees work outside of regular hours).

This is accurate in my experience. Actually, I'd say you're lucky if you find a small company that isn't at least mildly dysfunctional.

The silver lining with those dysfunctional ones, though, is that if you can clearly identify the issue your voice can probably carry enough weight (even as a new hire) to spur them to re-evaluate their process.

Re: Ask HN: Who's not sucky to work for?

#34

One challenge is that even in sucky workplaces, there always seem to be champions that will tell you how great it is. In part because it's a hard life focusing on how your job sucks and many people get good at being outwardly optimistic. That said, it would be nice to see more authenticity than what mostly gets posted in the hiring thread, and on company websites. I'm sure we each have our own criteria of what kind o…

> that even in sucky workplaces, I would say... if there is a company with 6,000 employees... it's going to depend way less on the company and more on the team. Your direct manager, your teammates, the other teams you work with, the other managers involved... that can all wildly vary even within the same company. They are fluid too. People come and go. Circumstances change. I don't know how much top-down leadership e…

I had a team and project I really enjoyed for 4 years, then poof it was all gone when the executive team decided to buy a competitor and scrap our team. You never know what might happen!

Re: Ask HN: Who's not sucky to work for?

#36
Keep in mind that at any large company people's experiences will vary from team to team. I can read reviews about my job where people make it out to be the worst place on earth. Yet I think it's quite cushy and don't really have anything bad to say about it.

There's rarely going to be one company that is great to work for all around unless they're small to medium sized.

Re: Ask HN: Who's not sucky to work for?

#37
In Norway you could do worse than working for Entur (I'm work as a consultant there and they are amazing, they are hiring, but I prefer being a consultant.)

Edit after rereading: since you ask were we work, self promotion seems to be OK with you. I work in Computas. We are employee owned and in 4.5 years I have not had to deal with a single jerk. That feels quite amazing given what I'm used to.

Re: Ask HN: Who's not sucky to work for?

#38

One challenge is that even in sucky workplaces, there always seem to be champions that will tell you how great it is. In part because it's a hard life focusing on how your job sucks and many people get good at being outwardly optimistic. That said, it would be nice to see more authenticity than what mostly gets posted in the hiring thread, and on company websites. I'm sure we each have our own criteria of what kind o…

> that even in sucky workplaces, I would say... if there is a company with 6,000 employees... it's going to depend way less on the company and more on the team. Your direct manager, your teammates, the other teams you work with, the other managers involved... that can all wildly vary even within the same company. They are fluid too. People come and go. Circumstances change. I don't know how much top-down leadership e…

IDK about 20k people companies, but they can have drastic influence into 2k companies.

Re: Ask HN: Who's not sucky to work for?

#39

I've been having a great time at Apple. I joined a bit over two years ago (coming from a 7.5-year-long stint at google). The people are great, the work is very interesting. Highly recommended. Google used to be a non-sucky place to work, but from what I hear from friends still there, it's not at all like it was in 2012

Eric was great CEO and TGIFs were the thing ;-)
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