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Ask HN: How do you track your billable working hours?

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Re: Ask HN: How do you track your billable working hours?

#31

I don't charge for my time, I charge for value created which is always more. A poor salesman charges for his time. Time does not take into account experience, knowledge or efficiency.

Right On! Congrats for that mindset.

However, I suggest that you should still track your time to determine whether your "Value" is worth the "Cost of Goods Sold".

Measure What Matters. :wink:

Re: Ask HN: How do you track your billable working hours?

#33

I use an app I made for myself: [link redacted] The main downside is probably that it doesn't automatically share data between devices, but it's fine for me as I just use it on my main work PC. It can save/load data to files so I have an `inotifywait` script watching my Downloads folder. When I save/download a file from the app it automatically gets backed up to cloud storage. I'm not sure how usable it might be for…

Cool! The wheel is already invented!

https://timewarrior.net/

Re: Ask HN: How do you track your billable working hours?

#35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On the flip side, most projects I work on on the side are now are bid based vs hourly based. I wasn't a fan of it at first, but now I've really come to like it. I know what I'll get paid, and the client knows what they're going to end up paying for the work that's been scoped out. It's up to me to determine whether I'm managing my time/rate correctly to make it a value for the client and that I'm getting what I feel…

What sort of projects are those? Not software I assume? I've yet to work on a project in my life which remained in the initial scope. Plus debugging seemingly trivial bugs can take entire work days.

It's software development. It's true that the scope is flexible, but it's not to a point that I think I'm doing an uneven amount of work compared to what I'm being paid, and if the additional features are too big then we begin working on the scope for another bid.

To avoid major bugs, I make it clear up front that if they stick with the stack that I choose for them (which is a stack and development pattern I've been using for the past 4+ years), the product will be delivered quicker versus if they need to use a specific stack.

Typically the client doesn't care how the product is built and generally doesn't care how it looks as long as it's easy to use and does the job they need. Everything is outlined in the bid/contract so there are no hidden surprises about the work being done.

Re: Ask HN: How do you track your billable working hours?

#37
I have a script called nagme that pops up once an hour

set logfile="%USERPROFILE%\My Documents\What have you been doing.txt" echo %DATE% %TIME% >>%logfile% notepad %logfile%

and I put my current job code, task etc, and then search and sort at billing time. If I'm on the road I keep a paper journal, and or a note in my phone in the same note as my vehicle log for the day.

All a bit time consuming but it captures enough.

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