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Re: Ask HN: Are Dishwashing Machines Bullshit?

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Post by bjourne » Tue, Jun 22, 2021, 3:36 PM UTC

jbotz wrote: post #19

One point for dishwashers I haven't seen mentioned is that they get the dishes a lot cleaner than you ever could by hand, because very hot water . Gets the oils off much better than any amount of soap. For what it's worth. First time I traveled to the US (I was 13) I thought there was something odd about the dishes... they felt strange. I told my host, I said "there seems to be a film of something that feels strange"…

I don't buy that. The scrubbing you do when hand washing must make up for the hotter water.

Re: Ask HN: Are Dishwashing Machines Bullshit?

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Post by is_true » Tue, Jun 22, 2021, 3:36 PM UTC

I_complete_me wrote: post #29

perilunar wrote: post #28

If I lived alone I wouldn’t bother with a dishwasher, but for a family they are great. Biggest issue I find is unpacking them. There’s always stuff that hasn’t dried properly. I think the ideal would be dual drawer dishwashers that you use alternately, leaving the clean dishes in one until you fill the other, so that the dishwashers become the cupboard. Do people do this?

I live alone and have a dishwasher. Put it on once a week and would not live without it - the dishes are spotless after washing. If it ever dies, I will replace it immediately. Only downside is having to keep the dishes 'under water' to prevent encrustation but this is only bothersome when other people are due to come around.

Mine has an option to pre wash that I use a couple of hours before washing when things have been in the washer for a couple of days.

Re: Ask HN: Are Dishwashing Machines Bullshit?

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Post by m-p-3 » Tue, Jun 22, 2021, 5:02 PM UTC

It saves me from cleaning the dishes manually in a family of 4 with two young kids.

I'll use whatever I can to free myself up from a chore and spend more time with my family.

Re: Ask HN: Are Dishwashing Machines Bullshit?

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Post by chevill » Tue, Jun 22, 2021, 5:13 PM UTC

atraac wrote: post #24

chevill wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The modern ones definitely don't do that. I'm an unusually clumsy person and my dishwasher chips or breaks at least 20 dishes for every one that I break myself.

You must have a weird dishwasher or you put your dishes in weird positions because I've been using an 8 year old washer with my gf for last 2 years and it has never destroyed anything.

I put everything where its supposed to be. The dishwasher is probably pretty old though. I rent.

I've used several other ones over the last 20+ years and they have all been pretty mediocre in terms of cleaning dishes and not chipping them. Perhaps everywhere I've been has had substandard models. What model is yours?

Re: Ask HN: Are Dishwashing Machines Bullshit?

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Post by tra3 » Tue, Jun 22, 2021, 5:17 PM UTC

I would never go back to living without a dishwasher. Other than the labour savings, and the clean result dishwashers save a huge amount of water [0].

[0]: https://www.cnet.com/home/kitchen-and-household/how-much-wat...

Re: Ask HN: Are Dishwashing Machines Bullshit?

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Post by airhead969 » Tue, Jun 22, 2021, 6:09 PM UTC

Moms are often the ones who make you clean dishes before they can be cleaned. The thing is, you do have to clean the drain "lint screen" more if you don't prewash.

Dishwashers require a lot of manual labor even without prewashing. Like "flying cars," I dream of robot arms that can clear the table, clean the dishes, dry them, and put them away. How hard can it be? :X

I also thing hiring a maid and a cook are a good idea because I'm so lazy and busy.

Re: Ask HN: Are Dishwashing Machines Bullshit?

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Post by d--b » Tue, Jun 22, 2021, 7:24 PM UTC

wreath wrote: post #22

d--b wrote: post #18

The day I bought a dishwasher, I invited 8 people for breakfast, 8 people for lunch and 8 people for dinner. You really don’t need to prewash anything...

Were they the same people? Not that it matters just curious.

No :-)

Re: Ask HN: Are Dishwashing Machines Bullshit?

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Post by d--b » Tue, Jun 22, 2021, 7:25 PM UTC

quickthrower2 wrote: post #25

d--b wrote: post #18

The day I bought a dishwasher, I invited 8 people for breakfast, 8 people for lunch and 8 people for dinner. You really don’t need to prewash anything...

I guess you have a crockery set with eight plates!

I think it was the number of chairs :-)

Re: Ask HN: Are Dishwashing Machines Bullshit?

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Post by cosmodisk » Tue, Jun 22, 2021, 7:27 PM UTC

We are in a process of moving from a place without one to a place that has one. I can't wait to be able to use it. Our kitchen is small and we go though a tremendous amount of plates, mugs,and saucepans each day. I do not want to stand by the sink for a few hours to do them all by hand,so to me,yes, It's worth it!

Re: Ask HN: Are Dishwashing Machines Bullshit?

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Post by giardini » Tue, Jun 22, 2021, 7:45 PM UTC

FroshKiller wrote: post #12

hypnoscripto wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No idea about the knives, but a huge non-US innovation is a drying rack. Wash the dishes, let them dry, put them away when you have time. If I had to dry them with a rag, I think my opinion would be different.

What do you mean by "non-US innovation"? I'm in the US and use a drying rack. I can't think of anyone I know in the US who doesn't use a drying rack.

I don't! I wash, rinse and stack items so they are exposed to the air. They begin to dry right away.