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Ask HN: Is Your Spacebar Working on YouTube?

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Re: Ask HN: Is Your Spacebar Working on YouTube?

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Space bar is hilarious for me on YouTube/Firefox. Some times it gets into a certain focus state (play button focussed?) and hitting space bar will briefly pause it, then resume playback. Hilarity ensues as I scramble, pausing a few times to realize the issue, and change the focus to something else by clicking the video canvas then press spacebar again for success.

This hits something that I've come across before. Web pages are actually 3D with focus, always. But it's not clear, because the representation is 2D and the focus is either limited to certain elements (like ) or has to be manually implemented by the developer. And sometimes, like with YouTube, even long lived websites with supposedly lots of experience get it wrong.

And this is hard to think about as a developer, imagine how it is for someone non-internet native, who barely understand the mouse-abstraction we all gotten so used to.

I do think touchscreens have made technology possible for a lot of groups who didn't understand it before. Maybe we need something similar for desktop and laptop to avoid 3D in 2D jam we're in now.

Re: Ask HN: Is Your Spacebar Working on YouTube?

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I use k instead of the space bar for a long time.

Same. I can't remember why exactly I switched, but I recall space bar being more of a gamble whether I would pause/unpause or scroll down the screen. K seemed to work better.

For me it was when I figured out K always works while spacebar just occasionally works.

Re: Ask HN: Is Your Spacebar Working on YouTube?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I imagine it has something to do with the keyboard shortcuts for video player controls, which I'm going to list because I think they're neat and was very excited when I discovered them. space - play/pause j - skip back k - play/pause l - skip forward 0-9 - skip to the n/10th point of the video m - mute f - fullscreen t - "theater mode" which is the bigger-but-not-full-screen video size I'm sure there are others, but…

There is indeed more. And there is one hotkey to rule them all, pressing "?" which shows all hotkeys. "?" is one hotkey I keep pressing in a lot of random contexts, just to see what it does. In many applications it shows all the hotkeys, or if you add some modifier like shift or alt.

How are you pressing '?' without shift already being applied?
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