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Ask HN: Is working for FAANG as big of a deal in Europe as it is in the US??

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Re: Ask HN: Is working for FAANG as big of a deal in Europe as it is in the US??

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Post by pjmlp »

Grimm1 wrote: post #18
ActorNightly wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I think these companies have been causing lots of ethical issues Pro tip: you can safely assume that any of the stuff you read online in terms of ethics in those companies exists solely for people to feel "woke" and for you to click on, and is highly biased. Do not take what you read online as the common viewpoint about those companies. Companies like Amazon, Facebook and Google has had way more positive impact on…

Strongly disagree. Facebook in particular. I'm with you on Amazon, and I founded a search engine because of my ethical beef with Google and general dissatisfaction with their product, their data collection is unethical and their search leaves a lot to be desired particularly for developers.

Yet everyone here jumps of joy using stacks developed with Facebook money like React.

Re: Ask HN: Is working for FAANG as big of a deal in Europe as it is in the US??

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Post by mkr-hn »

jtsiskin wrote: post #24
bor100003 wrote: post #23

On every technical talk, there's at least one presenter bragging about previous experience at FAANG. No exceptions, always 1 slide.

I don’t think it’s bragging; I think it’s to establish credibility (“ethos”)

The line between establishing credibility and bragging is easy to cross even for someone who's trying not to cross it.

Re: Ask HN: Is working for FAANG as big of a deal in Europe as it is in the US??

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Post by talmr »

gurkanoluc wrote: post #28

I worked for companies at various sizes FAANG and non-FAANG in London and I would say what FAANG pays is much better than what most of the startups or other companies such as banks pay. Base salaries are usually similar but RSU and other benefits make the real difference. For example, most of the tech companies in London don't even provide health insurance, since they rely on NHS. Startups try to use options to convi…

I’m an American so I always thought it’s cool you have NHS because we have to either pay for our own health insurance or we get it from our employer. What do you mean by health insurance there - are those additional offerings that NHS doesn’t provide?

Re: Ask HN: Is working for FAANG as big of a deal in Europe as it is in the US??

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Post by mattmanser »

talmr wrote: post #33
gurkanoluc wrote: post #28

I worked for companies at various sizes FAANG and non-FAANG in London and I would say what FAANG pays is much better than what most of the startups or other companies such as banks pay. Base salaries are usually similar but RSU and other benefits make the real difference. For example, most of the tech companies in London don't even provide health insurance, since they rely on NHS. Startups try to use options to convi…

I’m an American so I always thought it’s cool you have NHS because we have to either pay for our own health insurance or we get it from our employer. What do you mean by health insurance there - are those additional offerings that NHS doesn’t provide?

Yeah, usually allows you to jump the queue for ops and to get a private room. Access specialists you may not have got referred to by NHS. See [1] for full list.

For example a friend of mine had a gallbladder removed on private last month but would have had to wait till middle of next year in NHS.

Not usually that bad, but covid means a lot of NHS hospitals are having to push back non-essential surgery.

[1] https://uk.virginmoney.com/virgin/living/article/is-private-...

Re: Ask HN: Is working for FAANG as big of a deal in Europe as it is in the US??

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Post by talmr »

mattmanser wrote: post #34
talmr wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I’m an American so I always thought it’s cool you have NHS because we have to either pay for our own health insurance or we get it from our employer. What do you mean by health insurance there - are those additional offerings that NHS doesn’t provide?

Yeah, usually allows you to jump the queue for ops and to get a private room. Access specialists you may not have got referred to by NHS. See [1] for full list. For example a friend of mine had a gallbladder removed on private last month but would have had to wait till middle of next year in NHS. Not usually that bad, but covid means a lot of NHS hospitals are having to push back non-essential surgery. [1] https://uk…

Thanks for the reply, appreciate the insight.

Re: Ask HN: Is working for FAANG as big of a deal in Europe as it is in the US??

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Post by akavi »

codingprograms wrote: post #6

It’s only big deal in the USA because outside FAANG, technology really doesn’t pay that well. There are a few other companies, but your income is capped elsewhere

Non-FAANG companies that I personally know pay senior engineers more than 400 k$/yr in TC: AirBnB, Slack, Square, Uber, Lyft, Dropbox, Twitter, Pinterest, Spotify.

(This isn't to name the even longer list of private companies that have comparable comp with reasonable assessment of their equity)

Re: Ask HN: Is working for FAANG as big of a deal in Europe as it is in the US??

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Post by 2rsf »

In Sweden FAANG (and MS) are more desirable as their salaries tend to be higher and include more profitable stocks and bonuses. Other than that the technology and work conditions are more or less comparable to local companies.

The only problem is that the local branches tend to be small, probably due to higher costs of salaries, real estate and operations.

Re: Ask HN: Is working for FAANG as big of a deal in Europe as it is in the US??

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Post by bor100003 »

jtsiskin wrote: post #24
bor100003 wrote: post #23

On every technical talk, there's at least one presenter bragging about previous experience at FAANG. No exceptions, always 1 slide.

I don’t think it’s bragging; I think it’s to establish credibility (“ethos”)

It's something that must be said, even if they did only a summer internship.

Re: Ask HN: Is working for FAANG as big of a deal in Europe as it is in the US??

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Post by eivarv »

jtsiskin wrote: post #24
bor100003 wrote: post #23

On every technical talk, there's at least one presenter bragging about previous experience at FAANG. No exceptions, always 1 slide.

I don’t think it’s bragging; I think it’s to establish credibility (“ethos”)

The problem is that it doesn't really prove anything other than that the person managed to get hired by FAANG.
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