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Re: Ask HN: How to Become a Music Buff?

#31
Most answers here kind of imply that listening is enough, but I don't think that's true.

You'll learn a lot more reading about / listening to podcasts about music[0].

Step 1) Read the American music history Wikipedia article[1]

Step 2) Familiarize yourself with each genre listed.

How? Listen to the biggest hits in each. Explore the full discography of the genres popular artists. Understand the history and cultural context of each era.

Learn about how each generation was inspired by the previous. And don't forget to Read about the music.

If you don't know how to find info about this stuff try your local librarian!

Edit: don't just take it genre by genre. Go through the decades.

[0]]https://www.switchedonpop.com [1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_history_of_the_United_St...

Re: Ask HN: How to Become a Music Buff?

#32

You might be going about this in the wrong order. Instead of trying to become an expert in an art form that does not currently appeal to me, wouldn't it make more sense to first find instances of this art form that DO appeal to you, and then branch out from that? So the order I would suggest is: 1. Find music you like particularly 2. Seek out music related to #1 3. Start thinking about why you like what you like So,…

This is the correct answer.

Being a music buff among music buffs is as much about having a well-developed taste in music as it is a knowledge of music that influences others.

So start by developing your taste in music. Here’s how:

Using a site like albumoftheyear.org, listen to the first one to three tracks on the top rated albums from every genre.

Do this every week on Monday. New albums come out later in the week and it helps to see the how reviews change after more critics and fans listen repeatedly.

Your goal should be to find albums that you want to listen all the way through.

Sometimes, You’ll listen to the whole album and want to start it over as soon as you’re done. Other times you’ll find the album doesn’t live up to its first few tracks.

Albums you consider great you’ll be lucky to come across once out of a dozen times, so you have to be patient with the process.

You’ll know you found something you like when It feels exciting to know about a piece of music like you’re in on a secret. And it makes you want to tell other people about it.

Share the album with someone and tell them what you like about it.

Going through this process won’t only be a great experience—-you’ll learn your own taste.

And you’ll have convinced yourself that you in fact do enjoy discovering and listening to music as much or more than the other art forms you mentioned.

You’ll find you naturally learn about historically important pieces of music from reading reviews and from talking about music with other people who are impassioned by it.

The key is to then follow up like you would when you hear a word you don’t know the definition of, or library that solves something you were considering coding by hand.

Make a note, listen to the album and think about the context it was mentioned in.

If it appeals to you go back and listen to the greatest hits if that appeals to you go through their entire catalog.

Re: Ask HN: How to Become a Music Buff?

#34
I don't think this is something you can force, it just happens when you enjoy music, and a range of music.

A couple tips from me though:

1) Use Spotify, and the personal generated playlists that expand out (ie Discover Weekly, and Release Radar), avoid the ones that just play what you listen to a lot, it just reinforces a limited set of songs/albums/artists. And use the 'Fans also like' section of artists. Spotify's recommendations tend to really impress me, especially niche stuff

2) Never prejudge music. I used to do this, and since I grew up and stopped, my music taste has expanded in every direction. Own the embarrassing stuff, it's music for your enjoyment

3) Give everything a chance. Listened to something which was too experimental/loud/ambient/whatever? Come back to it later, some genres and even albums are growers, so never discount anything quickly.

4) There's no bad music. There is music you may not like, there's music which may be poorly produced/poor musicianship/etc, but music is about more than the sum of it's parts

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Nearly forgot the most important IMO.

5) Songs are (for the most part) designed to sit in their place as a chapter in an album. They typically make more sense in the context of the other songs, so try and listen to full albums rather than songs or playlists. And make sure to turn off shuffle!

Re: Ask HN: How to Become a Music Buff?

#35
Knowing what music you like would be helpful in a discussion like this. (Context: I've spent a lot of my career working in music or music software.)

It's difficult to expand your musical horizons just by shooting in the dark at things you should like. But often you can build bridges to new things by exploring their musical ancestors and descendants. Like classic rock? Start listening to some blues, then go from there to jazz. Like hip hop? Move backwards through disco, funk, soul, and, well, there we're back to jazz.

Classical music is a somewhat harder nut to crack if you don't gravitate towards it. What I've found, however is that some people think they don't like classical because they don't like Mozart, but then you play something a bit more modern (say, Stravinsky or so) and that grabs their attention.

If you like electronic stuff, one great book that I read years back, and have since passed on to several people is this:

https://www.amazon.com/Electronic-Experimental-Music-Technol...

It does a very good job of drawing a line from musique concrète and impressionism all the way through modern stuff like DJ Spooky. There are older editions of the book that are cheaper used and should be just fine.

If you list some of the things you do like, then it'd be easier for riff off of that to give you some suggestions for what might expand your horizon. There's no shame in having unsophisticated tastes at first. I remember having a student who started off wanting to learn Limp Bizket, and we worked from there to Rage Against the Machine, then from there to things like King Crimson and eventually a couple years later he was into pretty sophisticated fusion stuff.

(Edit: fixed the link)

Re: Ask HN: How to Become a Music Buff?

#36
Listen listen listen. Also I don't think you can really know that much without experience singing or playing but you don't have to be a virtuoso to expand your understanding of soooo many things. It goes really broad and deep similar to computer science.

Re: Ask HN: How to Become a Music Buff?

#38
For me, listening to human DJs on non-commercial radio stations has expanded my knowledge and tastes massively. It's a good way to learn about a wide variety of music and keep current. That knowledge can be used as a springboard for further exploration.

I like KEXP [0], a well-known community radio station from Seattle. They have many shows with all kinds of genres, as well as live music and discussion.

[0] https://kexp.org/

Re: Ask HN: How to Become a Music Buff?

#39
Get personally involved, have some skin in the game, and you'll get much more out of music.

About a year ago I started a project called Poseur to Composer. My goal is to play an instrument and learn enough music theory to compose songs I'm proud of (it's been a slow and humbling process, and I'm still working at it). Along the way I've discovered many new artists and genres, and I listen to music - no, engage with music - in a much different way now.

In case anyone's interested, here is where I've blogged my progress: https://poseurtocomposer.postach.io/page/sitemap and a recent newsletter I sent that encapsulates what I've accomplished thus far: https://mailchi.mp/60c7dfc7bcbb/rediscovery

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